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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Since your error counters are clean,
      and have stable line sync (I think), changing the ADSL firmware
      might just confuse the matter?<br>
      I think your problem is at a higher layer - Wireshark is your
      friend ;-)<br>
      <br>
       - G.<br>
      <br>
      On 12/09/2014 11:25 AM, Beeson, Ayden wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Yep
            good point, it’s been so long since I messed with it I
            always forget to think about them being technically
            separate, Cisco bundle them into the IOS release but I have
            used other versions before to override the IOS version (on
            an 857 that I used to use) as the “latest” IOS for that was
            so far behind it wasn’t funny.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers
            for the link, I’ll have a look </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">J</span><span
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333">Ayden
            Beeson<i> </i></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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              lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
            lang="EN-US"> Damien Gardner Jnr
            [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net">mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net</a>] <br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Friday, 12 September 2014 11:19 AM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Beeson, Ayden<br>
            <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Strange ADSL problem -
            troubleshooting / diagnosis advice wanted<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Bear in mind, it's not really IOS updates
            you want, it's adsl firmware updates..  <a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2036510">http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2036510</a>
            has a really good list to choose from..  On my 877, I
            settled for 6.0.10 which had a good mix of stability and
            speed (I now sync at 5mbps instead of 4 on standard 877
            firmware, but not the 6 it was syncing on with a different
            version but very unstable)<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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              DG<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On 12 September 2014 11:09, Beeson,
              Ayden <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:ABeeson@csu.edu.au" target="_blank">ABeeson@csu.edu.au</a>>
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Hey everybody,<br>
                <br>
                For those of you that are interested, just a brief
                update.<br>
                <br>
                I have been in touch with both Exetel's tier 1/2 support
                (via my support ticket) and Exetel's residential support
                manager and have been collecting some information for
                them.<br>
                <br>
                I have not had many failures since the post, but I have
                had a few, last night I had a big one and managed to get
                a fair bit of troubleshooting done.<br>
                <br>
                Things I have found in addition to my previous post:<br>
                <br>
                Pings / traceroutes to international destinations (<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bbc.co.uk"
                  target="_blank">bbc.co.uk</a> in this case) also
                suffer the problem, with the same 30ms increase, always
                exactly 30ms.<br>
                ATM pings end to end work without any packet loss or
                ping increase. Segment based atm pings always fail, I
                suspect they are blocked on the remote equipment
                (DSLAM?).<br>
                Reed-Solomon errors do not increase during the failure
                in any noteworthy way (1 or 2 every so often, no large
                increasing number or anything)<br>
                <br>
                I'm going to look into borrowing the test 1941 we have
                at work w/ the ADSL WIC and maybe try that out at home,
                but I suspect it'll be the same. I'm going to have a
                look for IOS updates to my 887 as well.<br>
                <br>
                I'll send another update when / if I have any more
                updates, hopefully it'll be sorted out soon. Thanks
                again to everybody who has offered advice, tips, config
                to check, or assorted similar scenarios etc., your
                advice has all been extremely positive as well as very
                helpful and interesting.<br>
                <br>
                Cheers,<br>
                Ayden<br>
                <br>
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