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We know that Kilohertz can deliver a mono audio signal for a very
long distance.<br>
And Megahertz can deliver a stereo audio signal for a reasonable
distance.<br>
Each of which is carrying a reasonable load of information in an
analogue fashion.<br>
If converted into Morse Code- i.e. digital pulses, then surely it
should be easy to<br>
transfer data over quite reasonably long distance by wireless.<br>
A two way transmission would obviously require some investment by
both<br>
parties, but the potential is there for an independent "State of
mind" who<br>
might like to think outside the square.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/09/2014 8:24 p.m., Curtis Bayne
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<div>I will miss Briz31.<br>
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<div>I remember watching "Caravaning with Tommo" (<a
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href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR53H-zgU0I">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR53H-zgU0I</a>)
as a younger Curtis - Tommo is all to blame for my love of
camping.</div>
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<div>This is a dangerous precedent to set, in my opinion. I
listen to community radio (especially Switch1197) up here in
Brisbane - to lose community radio (which I would argue has
greater penetration than community television) would be an
even greater loss to the community, and I am worried that this
is the next permutation of this exercise.</div>
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I suspect that there is more life left in lower frequency
radio waves for digital transmission</span><br
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<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">but
that isn't where the iPod money is.</span><br>
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<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Sssssh.... lest they start
"reclaiming" the HF/VHF amateur radio frequencies as well...</font></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Alan
Maher <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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from All Black land,<br>
<br>
While this may not be exactly aligned with the network
issues normally aligned on this<br>
group- I am happy to follow the discussion to date. I will
call it a "Friday" discussion.<br>
<br>
In most of the Western World, the standard analogue TV
channels have been switched off<br>
and the frequency spectrum sold to Mobile operators with
deep pockets.<br>
I was never sure exactly why this was done, but assume that
powers of intelligence much<br>
greater than mine were at work. Personally, I suspect the
politicians saw dollar signs and<br>
went blind very quickly.<br>
<br>
Community TV was never a "biggie" in NZ, despite the
spectrum being available, as most<br>
small communities never had the kind of resources available
to undertake that stuff.<br>
Small scale community radio still seems to happen, but it is
rarely noted or listened to.<br>
<br>
By way of comparison, I happened to live in a tiny town in
New England, USA where the<br>
dial-up connection was as reliable as a politicians promise-
it would disconnect at random<br>
intervals usually when you were in the middle of something
that seemed important at the time.<br>
Like a MS Service pack download.<br>
This was 2001<br>
<br>
We had a cable TV connection, but just a basic one that
didn't cost the earth and offer<br>
600 channels of repeats of MASH or something similar.<br>
<br>
However, I was amused that one channel was the local town
channel.<br>
And we are talking a town with maybe 900 residents.<br>
This channel constantly broadcast all the contact phone
numbers for the various services<br>
that the tiny town provided as kind of Power Point slide
show.<br>
Then................once a week it got really exciting,
because that was when they had the town<br>
meeting, and it was all broadcast live via a single tiny
webcam.<br>
<br>
All the local town council people had to behave themselves
when it was live to the community.<br>
No backdoor deals, no behind the scenes nonsense (well, I
had to assume so) and it<br>
was actually quite interesting to watch.<br>
<br>
I have to assume that the Cable TV provider allowed some
form of local access as a right to<br>
distribute their content within that area.<br>
<br>
That is readily done on the net, but getting through to the
local community relies on 2 very<br>
important things - 1/ Internet access, and a
reasonable/modest speed and 2/Local awareness<br>
of its existence.<br>
<br>
I live in a rural area, but am lucky enough to live quite
close to the Telephone exchange, so<br>
I get quite good speed on an ADSL2 connection and could
upgrade to VDSL, but haven't bothered.<br>
<br>
The radio/wireless/tv frequencies (in my view) have been
hi-jacked by the scam merchants<br>
and fellow travellers, as an "all move forward for benefit
of mankind" digital upgrade that<br>
actually serves no great benefit at all, and disadvantages
large sections of people who do<br>
not live in a big city and quite enjoy listening to scratchy
radio from a distance, or watching<br>
their selection of a couple of channels (with snow) of the
news.<br>
<br>
I suspect that there is more life left in lower frequency
radio waves for digital transmission<br>
but that isn't where the iPod money is.<br>
<br>
But, I would be happy to be advised otherwise.<br>
<br>
Alan Maher
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