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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Seems as though we are getting some clarity on who will have access to our stored metadata:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 30 August 2014 10:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bevan Slattery<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Data retention definitions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ice Bucket Metadata Challenge? Nah... people would wimp out :)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Skeeve Stevens - </span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/" target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F007F">The Experts Who The Experts Call</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060">Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F007F"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 30 August 2014 09:12, Bevan Slattery <<a href="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au" target="_blank">bevan@slattery.net.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We as an industry should get our **** together, come up with an advertising campaign that illustrates the problem and in simple writing/video and email the 3,000,000 subscribers/users that we have apart from Telstra and Optus.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We should have a "metadata" day in which we undertake significant activities such as all change our our home pages to a metadata landing page to draw attention to this with a video demonstrating the issue at large.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Posting to AUSNOG is not going to help and don't expect businesses to get involved because we haven't helped them understand why they should be concerned.<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 30 Aug 2014, at 8:47 am, David Beveridge <<a href="mailto:dave@bevhost.com" target="_blank">dave@bevhost.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The group of businesses in this forum will only be tasked to store the data if the proposal gets up.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Perhaps we should be getting the business community behind this effort.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm sure corporates and small business alike are not geared up to collect and store all this data.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From memory, the requirement is that all "entities" be required to store the "metadata".<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I can see any reason why any "entity" who runs a NAT gateway would be exempt from this. <o:p></o:p></p>
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