<div dir="ltr"><rant><div><br></div><div>I saw this article as well and immediately thought 'bullshit' and written by a journo or editor looking to stir things up... <div><div><br></div><div>I doubt ANY ISP would actually back the piracy crackdown. It also says iiNet supports it which would be a reversal of their previous policy.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The problem with this whole bullshit is that they are using the excuse of child porn, terrorism and copyright infringement to guilt everyone into putting a mechanism in place to have absolute control over the Internet in Australia</div>
<div><br></div><div>We know what happens when government departments do when they don't have a clue ala s313. (<a href="http://www.itnews.com.au/News/391441,asic-admits-to-lack-of-technical-knowledge-in-s313-use.aspx">http://www.itnews.com.au/News/391441,asic-admits-to-lack-of-technical-knowledge-in-s313-use.aspx</a>) and we saw the complete joke of an attempt of government ministers trying to explain what metadata meant.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Companies like Village Roadshow are jumping on the bandwagon to do nothing more than try to protect their massively unjustified costs. I was in Kuala Lumpur the other day and saw Expendables 3 for MR16 (AU$5.40) and in Singapore the same would be AU$10.50, Cambodia is about AU$4.50, with most other countries in the region. Even the US most cinemas are $5 or more less than Australia. All the cinemas I've been to from the above countries as well as Beijing, Seoul, Hong Kong and others are better facilities than anything I've been to in Australia.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Everyone claims Australia are the worst in the world when it comes to piracy... but perhaps there is a direct correlation to us being the most screwed on price in the world. We all know that the ACCC and others have been chasing the likes of Apple, Microsoft, Adobe and others over their 'Australian Tax', especially on digital products which cost no more to deliver.</div>
<div><br></div><div>My issue is that is all these proposed changes are being pushed forward by bodies with an interest in protecting their own needs - nothing about protecting anyone else. The whole terrorist and child porn argument is completely crap those who do these kinds of things are using network that are very hard to track them down. Only the idiots are using the public internet and they will get caught due to their own stupidity.</div>
<div><br></div><div>What annoys me the most is that all these stupid organisations are pushing with an agenda that is ultimately going to make their own lives even more difficult.</div><div><br></div><div>If anything has taught us by how people have used the internet in countries where it has attempted to be shut down and controlled is that the people will find a way.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Their push on enforcement will develop new protocols, new encryption for anything they break and new networks to anonymise ourselves even further.... using tools which will make the lives of these organisations even more difficult than ever before.</div>
<div><br></div><div>They do this.. when we even more move to VPN's... then encrypted VPN's... behind things like TOR making it forever impossible to know what anyone at all is doing.</div><div><br></div><div>Maybe this is a good thing... when ISPs truly cannot see what their users are doing because it is all encrypted, maybe then they will leave us alone... and look back and realise they did this to themselves.</div>
<div><br></div><div>But in the mean time they're going to make us spend a lot of money on somethings that will ultimately be useless.</div><div><br></div><div>Personally I will be encouraging everyone I know to subscribe to an off-shore VPN services or other services come up.</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 31 August 2014 12:36, Mark ZZZ Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au" target="_blank">markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<a href="http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/telcos-back-internet-piracy-crackdown-20140830-10a8i9.html" target="_blank">http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/telcos-back-internet-piracy-crackdown-20140830-10a8i9.html</a><br>
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"The country's biggest telecommunications companies are willing to block their customers from accessing overseas websites hosting pirated movies and music despite concerns harmless sites could also get caught by the filter.<br>
Telstra, Optus, iiNet, Vodafone and other internet service providers are also ready to negotiate a scheme that would punish internet users who have received three warnings to stop downloading content illicitly."<br>
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Anybody got a link to the submissions? It seems fairly contrary to past positions some SPs have stated, and reads more like what Village Roadshow would accept as a compromise position.<br>
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It also sounds to me like a bit of FUD from Village Roadshow that 900 000 people's livelihoods are impacted. That's more people than those who work in most industries in Australia. Chicken Little much?<br>
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<a href="http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/FlagPost/2014/February/Employment-by-industry-2012-13" target="_blank">http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/FlagPost/2014/February/Employment-by-industry-2012-13</a><br>
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