<div dir="ltr">Sure but there's hardly been any discussion of late on this and the impact it has on the Australian market.<div><div><br></div><div>Net neutrality has barely rated a mention in Australia since 2008. Combine it with NBN Co's CVC charge and it's not looking like Australia will become attractive for content players at all. Do we want that?</div>
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<div>Just look into Netflix + <insert large eyeball network name here> in the US. It’s not an Australian thing. It’s been the “war” between eyeball networks and content for a while.</div><div><div class="h5">
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<div>On 8/27/14, 12:04 AM, "Ben Grubb" <<a href="mailto:bgrubb@fairfaxmedia.com.au" target="_blank">bgrubb@fairfaxmedia.com.au</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>When talking about the Australian market though are there others besides Telstra using similar tactics?</div>
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<div>Simply not true that Telstra is the only one doing this. Deutsche Telekom has been known to use the same practice for now decades. Swisscom, same thing.</div>
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<div>All of the Gorillas are doing this. Sadly.</div>
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<div>It's really interesting IMO, especially considering it's in Telstra's best interest with its 50% stake in Foxtel to keep content players like Netflix away. Only way to do that is by charging them ridiculous transit fees.</div>
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<a href="http://blog.cloudflare.com/the-relative-cost-of-bandwidth-around-the-world" target="_blank">http://blog.cloudflare.com/the-relative-cost-of-bandwidth-around-the-world</a><br>
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