<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px"><div>+1 - its a tax on the whole Australian economy. I'm not sure whether the powers that be care or not (probably not considering its been going on so long :)</div>
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<div><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><b>From</b>: "Ben Grubb" <bgrubb@fairfaxmedia.com.au><br />
<b>Sent</b>: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 12:02 AM<br />
<b>To</b>: "Skeeve Stevens" <skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com><br />
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<b>Subject</b>: Re: [AusNOG] CloudFlare: The Relative Cost of Bandwidth Around the World</span>
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<div>Is it time that interconnection be regulated? Clearly CloudFlare shows Australia up as horrible place for start-ups and content players when you have to pay what is effectively a "Telstra tax" to service 50% of the market (Telstra's customers) with a satisfactory experience that then drives up the cost of your product for your customers.</div>
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<div>Time for ACCC intervention?</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 August 2014 23:45, Skeeve Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>></span> wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">I'm wondering what the differentiator will be between Bigpond and Foxtel Internet which they are about to launch.
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<div>Telstra not peering is very *yawn* and some 20 years old news.</div>
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<div class="h5">On 26 August 2014 23:35, Ben Grubb <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bgrubb@fairfaxmedia.com.au" target="_blank">bgrubb@fairfaxmedia.com.au</a>></span> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm planning on writing about this guys for the SMH. Matt at CloudFlare gave me the heads up earlier.
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<div>If anyone feels like ranting to me about this, drop me a line :)</div>
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<div>It's really interesting IMO, especially considering it's in Telstra's best interest with its 50% stake in Foxtel to keep content players like Netflix away. Only way to do that is by charging them ridiculous transit fees.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 August 2014 23:30, James Andrewartha <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trs80@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au" target="_blank">trs80@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><a href="http://blog.cloudflare.com/the-relative-cost-of-bandwidth-around-the-world" target="_blank">http://blog.cloudflare.com/the-relative-cost-of-bandwidth-around-the-world</a><br />
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"Australia is the most expensive region in which we operate, but for an<br />
interesting reason. We peer with virtually every ISP in the region except<br />
one: Telstra. Telstra, which controls approximately 50% of the market, and<br />
was traditionally the monopoly telecom provider, charges some of the<br />
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