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<div>Australia is making huge strides towards better interconnection. A few years ago there was almost no Internet Exchange capacity in use but rather capacity was bought via transit. Nowadays you have Megaport and WAIA present in most states and there is a
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<div>Fixing Telstra by regulation is a whole different story ...</div>
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<div>On 8/27/14, 12:08 AM, "Ben Grubb" <<a href="mailto:bgrubb@fairfaxmedia.com.au">bgrubb@fairfaxmedia.com.au</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Sure but there's hardly been any discussion of late on this and the impact it has on the Australian market.
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<div>Net neutrality has barely rated a mention in Australia since 2008. Combine it with NBN Co's CVC charge and it's not looking like Australia will become attractive for content players at all. Do we want that?</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 27 August 2014 00:06, Wolfgang Nagele (AusRegistry) <span dir="ltr">
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<div>Just look into Netflix + <insert large eyeball network name here> in the US. It’s not an Australian thing. It’s been the “war” between eyeball networks and content for a while.</div>
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<div>On 8/27/14, 12:04 AM, "Ben Grubb" <<a href="mailto:bgrubb@fairfaxmedia.com.au" target="_blank">bgrubb@fairfaxmedia.com.au</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Sure. Doesn't make it right though.
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<div>When talking about the Australian market though are there others besides Telstra using similar tactics?</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 27 August 2014 00:02, Wolfgang Nagele (AusRegistry) <span dir="ltr">
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<div>Simply not true that Telstra is the only one doing this. Deutsche Telekom has been known to use the same practice for now decades. Swisscom, same thing.</div>
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<div>All of the Gorillas are doing this. Sadly.</div>
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<div>On 8/26/14, 11:35 PM, "Ben Grubb" <<a href="mailto:bgrubb@fairfaxmedia.com.au" target="_blank">bgrubb@fairfaxmedia.com.au</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm planning on writing about this guys for the SMH. Matt at CloudFlare gave me the heads up earlier.
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<div>If anyone feels like ranting to me about this, drop me a line :)</div>
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<div>It's really interesting IMO, especially considering it's in Telstra's best interest with its 50% stake in Foxtel to keep content players like Netflix away. Only way to do that is by charging them ridiculous transit fees.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 August 2014 23:30, James Andrewartha <span dir="ltr">
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<a href="http://blog.cloudflare.com/the-relative-cost-of-bandwidth-around-the-world" target="_blank">http://blog.cloudflare.com/the-relative-cost-of-bandwidth-around-the-world</a><br>
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"Australia is the most expensive region in which we operate, but for an<br>
interesting reason. We peer with virtually every ISP in the region except<br>
one: Telstra. Telstra, which controls approximately 50% of the market, and<br>
was traditionally the monopoly telecom provider, charges some of the<br>
highest transit pricing in the world — 20x the benchmark ($200/Mbps)."<br>
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