<div dir="ltr">This is very much like Conroy's Internet filter - the holes in the plan are stupendously large. So large in fact that I was actually on the ABC's 7:30 report demonstrating how simple it was to set up a VPN with an endpoint outside the filter to bypass any sort of filtering that was put in place.<div>
<br></div><div>When and if this latest brainfart legislation comes in, people will do exactly the same thing as we thought they'd do when the filter was being proposed -those who are doing the wrong thing will go deeper underground, and those who don't do the wrong thing will be inconvenienced. All it will do (other than cause a lot of pain and cost a lot of money) is push those who do wish to do the bad thing into using technologies that make it harder for the government to monitor their activities.</div>
<div><br></div><div>That our national security "experts" can't see this concerns the shit out of me - more than the proposed regulations, to be honest.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On 5 August 2014 10:57, Skeeve Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">The thing is.. until we're actually told what we need to do... there is little point speculating about it... because it could be anything - or nothing.<div><br></div><div>CDR's are easy... we have that to do billing. Maillogs, well, that is stupid since very few people use their ISP's email addresses these days... most are on Gmail/Hotmail/etc.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Web clicks.. that is a whole world of WTF... </div><div><br></div><div>The whole proposal is stupid. The funny thing is that is 200k (as reported) people are using VPN's to get to Netflix (as I do), then we could just torrent through that anyway, and the ISP wouldn't be able to see it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I'd love the government to try to intercept VPN's - watch businesses lose their minds if that happens.</div><div><br></div><div>And if they leave VPN's alone (which I imagine they'd have to), then the popularity of VPN's will just go off.</div>
<div><br></div><div>It is like when they were using the hype of predators on the internet... any self respecting non-idiot predator would be using a VPN or TOR, and any not, is advertising to get caught (which they all should be).</div>
<div><br></div><div>Personally, I am not anti-piracy protections, but I am heavily against pointless and unenforcible policies.</div><div><br></div><div>I should do a video about this :) </div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Terry Sweetser (SkyMesh CTO) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:terry+AusNOG@skymesh.net.au" target="_blank">terry+AusNOG@skymesh.net.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Noggers,<br>
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What thoughts and plans do people have in place for the possible legal requirements for data retention?<br>
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VoIP and PSTN CDRs are very much an easy-beat, no one would be discarding those as quickly as 2 years.<br>
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But mail logs? Web clicks? What scope are we talking about here? How far will we possibly (be forced to) go?<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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