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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Terry Sweetser (SkyMesh CTO) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:terry+AusNOG@skymesh.net.au" target="_blank">terry+AusNOG@skymesh.net.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>

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    <div>Skeeve,<br>
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      If they "me too" the UK scheme, which is likely: web clicks, all
      email, and all phone calls.<br>
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        <span style="color:rgb(30,35,38);font-family:Georgia;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.5px;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;display:inline!important;float:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> details of every website visited, the
          transmission of every email sent and every phone call made in
          the UK to be retained and made available to authorities on
          request</span></blockquote>
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      And this will include Google, Hotmail and Yahoo doing business in
      Australia, and/or with Australians -- being offshore will not help
      if the scope is broad like the UK scheme.<br>
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      Looking at the UK scheme in detail, I see 4 days of full web
      content is required, also ISP "login data" (aka Radius POP IMAP,)
      and subscriber information for 1 year.<br>
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      On 05/08/14 10:57, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Web clicks.. that is a whole world of WTF... </div>
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