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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Kurt Bales <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kwbales@kwbales.net" target="_blank">kwbales@kwbales.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">I would strongly suggest using EX4300 where you have the choice and the feature set isn't going to be a hard limitation today.<div><br></div><div>You can compare features using the following two links:</div>
<div> - Standalone: <a href="http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/release-independent/junos/topics/concept/ex-series-software-features-overview.html" target="_blank">www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/release-independent/junos/topics/concept/ex-series-software-features-overview.html</a></div>
<div> - Virtual Chassis - <a href="http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/release-independent/junos/topics/concept/ex-series-software-features-overview-vc.html" target="_blank">www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/release-independent/junos/topics/concept/ex-series-software-features-overview-vc.html</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>The EX4300 is a better long term investment given the direction the Juniper switching division is heading, even considering the short term increase in buy price compared to EX4200.</div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr">Regards,<div><br></div><div>Kurt Bales</div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Christopher Pollock <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris@ionetworks.com.au" target="_blank">chris@ionetworks.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Negative, red six. Check the spec sheets closely, there are some noteable weaknesses. Also the 42 can VCP over fibre ports if you have them. Pricing is usually better for the 42 as well.<div>
<br></div><div>I say this as someone who sells these things, and wants to sell you as much as possible.. you're probably better off with the cheaper one. We sell a metric eff-tonne of 4200s and very few 43s. It all depends on use case and what features you need as IIRC the advanced feature license enables different things and different features come on standard.<br>
</div><div><div><div><br>On Tuesday, 5 August 2014, Peter Childs <<a href="mailto:pchilds@staff.iinet.net.au" target="_blank">pchilds@staff.iinet.net.au</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>At a glance the EX4300 appears better in terms of everything (including value) than EX4200 ? Am I missing something? </div>
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<div>Be interesting in anyone's opinion that has 4300's in the field.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Christopher Pollock <<a>chris@ionetworks.com.au</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Tuesday, 5 August 2014 3:12 pm<br>
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<div>Any reason you're looking at the EX3300/EX4300 over the 32/4200? You may find them better value/featureset for your dollar.</div>
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In my own personal experience, the Brocade CLI is Cisco like, but<br>
annoyingly nothing like it. Sometimes what you instinctively think you<br>
should be able to do, you cant. You cant assume a book has the same<br>
contents based on its cover in this particular scenario, but I guess<br>
like any other vendor its just a matter of learning the differences.<br>
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> On 30 Jul 2014, at 04:15, Rhys Hanrahan <<a>rhys@nexusone.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> I'm looking for people's recommendations that could be given to pick one over the other, as I'm having a tough time deciding. Based on the technical specs, and feature listings of both sets of hardware, I can't find a major technical reason to pick one over
the other - they are mostly pretty closely matched for what we need. So I'm more focused on trying to find out what people's experiences are generally, so I can get a "safety in numbers" sort of approach.<br>
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> We took 5 vendors through to a detailed drill down when we built the 100% fully automated wholesale carrier at
<a href="http://www.allegro.net" target="_blank">www.allegro.net</a> and Juniper had the most complete automation/api, so we went with those guys. It’s good stuff. We use netconf over ssh rather than their orchestration abstraction stuff (like Space) but
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