<div dir="ltr">It would make sense for netflix but somewhat expensive to join all those (compared to openconnect program, or presenting at say just EQX/ASN.AU NSW?), I detect a whiff of some interesting Netflix/<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">MegaDirect/Megaport partnership here, cheap for netflix and onus on the end ISPs to connect. Not quite as big debacle or controversy as the US, halfway between in terms of cost/effort for Netflix, perhaps?</span><div>
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Another company for the users is riot/LoL, and they are experiencing the same massive growth netflix had/has, albeit riots approach seems to be to build more and more PoPs, whereas netflix not so much. might turn out to be more of a cloudflare than a... well not sure what another netflix is, most companies tend to build pops? (perhaps with level3 handling all their delivery, it made sense/didn't matter if netflix built pops? but now with congestion issues, might have come back and bit them in the ass?)</span></div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Joseph Goldman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joe@apcs.com.au" target="_blank">joe@apcs.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I might be completely unrealistic to think this way - But I don't think it's a stretch for ACMA/ACCC/DBCDE (whoever can set these mandates) to require connection to a public IX in either Sydney, Brisbane or Melbourne.<br>
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Government stance - it makes sense for the betterment of afford-ability of internet in the country. It's hard to subsidise last mile - so any savings that can be made further up the chain is big winner for any size ISP's.<br>
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Would the loss of income to the big guys who don't peer, being forced to peer, be that significant?<br>
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I may be just dreaming - but it'd be nice.<br>
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On topic to your point, I would think it would make sense for Netflix to join public IX - they seem to be adamant they are 'for the users' so I don't see them shutting people out and having the debacle of controversy like they do in the US.<div>
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On 20/07/14 09:28, Joshua D'Alton wrote:<br>
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Morning Noggers,<br>
<br>
I've been mulling over the possibility netflix comes to AU, and what<br>
that might mean especially re breaking up the Go4 closed peering.<br>
<br>
Firstly, if netflix just does local cache with the top ISPs by<br>
volume/subscribers-who-will-<u></u>use-netflix, then looking at the players,<br>
listed roughly based on traffic and including significant/interesting<br>
players, we can probably assume:<br>
BigPond - definitely yes<br>
Optus - yes<br>
TPG - yes<br>
iiNet - yes<br>
<br>
Eftel/M2/Dodo - yes<br>
Vocus - yes<br>
Exetel - probably yes<br>
<br>
If netflix were to come in themselves just to say Sydney, and notch up<br>
an agreement with Telstra (who will likely give it, 40Gbit domestic<br>
traffic < 40Gbit on SX), then it could be that Telstra would be the sole<br>
upstream for AU much like is the situation in US with basically only<br>
Cogent or Level3 previously.<br>
<br>
For breaking things up, obviously this would be bad, as Telstra will be<br>
wanting to bring home the bacon with all their downstreams (of which,<br>
iinet eftel etc would probably then just do their own cache of some<br>
sorts, even without the netflix program). Presumably not much would<br>
change with Go4, although this might give Telstra enough ammunition to<br>
actually break the Go4 and become the sole Gang of one (a very scary<br>
thought, esp with the recent NBN/Telstra developments), not that ACCC<br>
would allow that, but...<br>
<br>
But what if netflix came in with a non-Go4... either iinet eftel vocus<br>
etc, be it just sydney pops or the capitals, all of the non-Go4 would<br>
have cheap access via peering, and the Go4 would potentially be cut out<br>
if said non-Go4 didn't announce netflix to those upstreams.. would this<br>
break the Go4?<br>
<br>
Or what if TPG were to avail themselves of a cheap peering product, one<br>
that would give anyone (wholesalers?) access to the other 2(3) Go4,<br>
would they become the Cogent of AU with Telstra/Optus refusing to<br>
upgrade ports at capacity (not currently, but if..)?<br>
<br>
Interesting thoughts, I'd be interested in seeing what others have<br>
mulled, if they have, or what conclusions people have come across in<br>
this or similar thoughts?<br>
<br>
Enjoy!<br>
<br>
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