<div dir="ltr">Maybe I am missing something so please do correct me if I am wrong, but this reads to me like Verizon doesn't have enough bandwidth from the provider that is delivering the Netflix traffic.<div><br></div>
<div>Their 1-1 statement implies arrogance as far as I am concerned, that they do not want to pay for any transit, only to charge other people for it.</div><div><br></div><div>The below is purely my opinion:</div><div><br>
</div><div>"Verizon - your customers are paying you to reliably provide them with data from any source, or to deliver it to any source. If you don't have enough bandwidth from a source to provide that traffic, you need to buy it. So buy it, and charge your customers. Or work something else out. This is most definitely your problem to fix."</div>
<div><br></div><div>Please clarify the problem with my opinion here. I may well be missing a key point here, and would love to know what that point is. If none of their pipes were full, then I would agree it is not their problem...</div>
<div><br></div><div>- Greg.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 July 2014 14:49, Rob Wise <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rob@wonk.org" target="_blank">rob@wonk.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Verizon's perspective is worth a read:<br><br><a href="http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/why-is-netflix-buffering-dispelling-the-congestion-myth" target="_blank">http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/why-is-netflix-buffering-dispelling-the-congestion-myth</a><div>
<br></div><div>TL;DR - It's a commercial issue, but I think we all knew that.<br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Chris Barnes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris.p.barnes@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.p.barnes@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>"Any ISP that can’t reliably deliver that right now doesn’t deserve to be
in business, and probably should just quietly set themselves on fire."<br><br></div>Tell that to Verizon.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Mark Newton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:newton@atdot.dotat.org" target="_blank">newton@atdot.dotat.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br>
On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Skeeve Stevens <<a href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Looks like we're all going to need more backhaul soon.... and expect ISPs to have 'Netflix' plans :)<br>
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</div>Doubtful. From personal experience, Netflix wants about 2.5 Mbps. Any ISP that can’t reliably deliver that right now doesn’t deserve to be in business, and probably should just quietly set themselves on fire.<br>
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- mark<br>
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