<div dir="ltr">Verizon's perspective is worth a read:<br><br><a href="http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/why-is-netflix-buffering-dispelling-the-congestion-myth">http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/why-is-netflix-buffering-dispelling-the-congestion-myth</a><div>
<br></div><div>TL;DR - It's a commercial issue, but I think we all knew that.<br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Chris Barnes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris.p.barnes@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.p.barnes@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="">"Any ISP that can’t reliably deliver that right now doesn’t deserve to be
 in business, and probably should just quietly set themselves on fire."<br><br></div>Tell that to Verizon.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Mark Newton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:newton@atdot.dotat.org" target="_blank">newton@atdot.dotat.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br>
On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Skeeve Stevens <<a href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Looks like we're all going to need more backhaul soon.... and expect ISPs to have 'Netflix' plans :)<br>
<br>
</div>Doubtful. From personal experience, Netflix wants about 2.5 Mbps.  Any ISP that can’t reliably deliver that right now doesn’t deserve to be in business, and probably should just quietly set themselves on fire.<br>
<br>
  - mark<br>
<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
AusNOG mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br></div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">-- <br>Kind Regards,<br><br>Christopher Barnes<br><br>e. <a href="mailto:chris.p.barnes@gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.p.barnes@gmail.com</a><br>

</font></span></div>
<br>_______________________________________________<br>
AusNOG mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br></div>