<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Telstra owns the cable systems used to supply virtually all of their transit. </div><div><br></div><div>If you own the infrastructure, the marginal cost of turning up new circuits is pretty negligible. Why do you assume that their price is related to their cost of supply?</div><div><br></div><div>I doubt Telstra much cares whether Netflix enters their network in Sydney or LA.</div><div><br></div><div> - mark</div><div><br></div><div><br>On 15 Jul 2014, at 16:06, Damien Gardner Jnr <<a href="mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net">rendrag@rendrag.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">It'll be interesting to see.. I guess it's a matter of the cost of international transit vs a LOT of lost revenue if they open the gates to peering, rather than charging for ALL connectivity..<div><br>
</div><div>Though when you start getting into the 5+ gigabits range, telstra transit gets so cheap (well, for .au) that Netflix may just pay it..?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 July 2014 16:01, Nathan Sullivan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nathan@nightsys.net" target="_blank">nathan@nightsys.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Was thinking exactly the same thing :)<div><br></div><div>I can imagine the performance warning when you start loading streams now... Verizon style.</div>
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On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Curtis Bayne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:curtis@bayne.com.au" target="_blank">curtis@bayne.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">I wonder how much traffic Telstra is willing to carry on its international circuits just to maintain this nearly decades(!) old peering policy.<br><div><br></div><div>This should be interesting. Popcorn time! (pun intended ;)</div>
</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Scott Howard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scott@doc.net.au" target="_blank">scott@doc.net.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Not if they deliver it to them in the US...<div><br></div><div>Then when performance tanks, they just put up an error blaming Telstra, just like they are doing with Verizon in the US.</div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I wonder if they realise yet that they're going to have to PAY Telstra to deliver content to Telstra's customers? :) I'd love to be a fly on the wall during that conversation :D</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 July 2014 15:25, Joseph Goldman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joe@apcs.com.au" target="_blank">joe@apcs.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hopefully they just jump on the major IX's and that should cover a lot of AU anyway shouldn't it? At least the medium sized networks.<div><br>
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I'm hoping they will consider Australia differently ;-)<br>
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I assume that a significant number of ISPs will go the Netflix<br>
Open Connect cache.... so it will already be inside their<br>
network and it is really about the backhaul at that point.<br>
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I doubt that even the largest ISP in Australia by number of netflix<br>
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