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<body><div>Hi All,<br></div>
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<div>Depending on your traffic patterns I'd suggest network providers or end users of providers who use services like Black Lotus do some serious investigation into how attacks or permanent DDOS mitigation from Black Lotus (or any other provider for that matter) can affect overall traffic throughput (and latency due to major routing changes). All the sales talk and glowing feedback aside as an end customer of colocation and transit service whose services in one POP have DDOS mitigation by Black Lotus I would be wary about suggesting them to everyone.<br></div>
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<div>For example if you just run a webhosting company or something and do a lot of outbound traffic then their mitigation could be fantastic, but if you run a service where you have heavy inbound data transfers as well or an otherwise more balanced traffic profile then based on my findings and testing services like Black Lotus can significantly slow down or degrade transfer speeds. I don't have access to the exact reports or settings that protect my network (in this case a /24 advertised by one of my colocation providers) however it appears that if you are attacked and the protection is "tightened" throughput can drop to levels below 20% of what you might otherwise expect to see.<br></div>
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<div>Speaking with other industry contacts (some who take part in this mailing list as well) I get the impression with traffic levels well under 100mbit DDOS mitigation services should not degrade throughput more than 5%, increases in latency aside due to routing over some California POP or wherever else aside if the reality was that throughput was decreased by 5% only it'd probably be acceptable but my experience is far worse than this.<br></div>
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<div>For what it's worth my concerns have been raised with my provider and we are working through the issue; but I felt it might help others to know that these services can have substantial negative affects as well.<br></div>
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<div>I am happy to share more details about my testing and experience; just ask if you're interested.<br></div>
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<div>Regards,<br></div>
<div>Oliver<br></div>
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<div>On Sat, Jul 12, 2014, at 10:36 PM, James Braunegg wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Dear Skeeve thanks for the introduction… and recommendations from Gary and John !<br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">I’ve been thinking about how best to reply to the many questions asked already and came to the conclusion instead of writing a long email outlining our services I’d summarize a few quick points below and then provide a link for anyone who would like to read more information rather than blasting pages of text to everyone.<br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">I’m also trying to be mindful to not release to much detailed information as I’ll be presenting at AusNOG 2014 this year and want to keep some things for my presentation so as a lead up to AusNOG this year I welcome you all to come and please come say hello me !<br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span class="colour" style="color:black"></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Ok<span class="colour" style="color:black">,</span> back to answering Skeeves questions …<br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span class="colour" style="color:black"></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span class="colour" style="color:black">Some of you might remember a email last year when I was calling for Participants, this is where our services have evolved from.</span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">To begin within I’m also not going to comment directly on <span class="colour" style="color:black">B</span>lack <span class="colour" style="color:black">L</span>otus as I think that is unfair, however I will explain what we believe our key points of differences are below.<br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><b></b><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><b>Long Version - </b><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"><a href="http://www.micron21.com/ausnog-ddos-service.php" style="text-decoration: underline; color: blue;">http://www.micron21.com/ausnog-ddos-service.php</a></span></span></span><b></b><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><b></b><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><b>Short Version - Below</b><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span class="colour" style="color:black"></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><b><span class="colour" style="color:black">Question ?</span></b><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">How quick does the protection work.?<br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><b><span class="colour" style="color:black">Answer:</span></b><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">This depends on the type of service you’re using; along with if you’re using manual or automatic diversion.<br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Using Micron21 as <span class="colour" style="color:black">a </span>permanent protection solution to protect an Australian network provid<span class="colour" style="color:black">ing</span><span class="colour" style="color:black">always-on</span> continuous protection.<br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Using Micron21 as <span class="colour" style="color:black">an </span>ad<span class="colour" style="color:black">-</span>hoc protection solution with automatic diversion creates a delay between 30 seconds to 3 minutes as global BGP routes update with a more specific route.<br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Using Micron21 as <span class="colour" style="color:black">an </span>ad<span class="colour" style="color:black">-</span>hoc protection solution with manual diversion creates a delay notif<span class="colour" style="color:black">ying</span> the network owner plus a delay between 30 seconds to 3 minutes as global BGP routes update with a more specific route.<br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Obviously the key is the faster you can react<span class="colour" style="color:black"> to an incoming DDoS attack</span> the faster something can be done about it<span class="colour" style="color:black">.</span><span class="colour" style="color:black">T</span>he delay in BGP rerouting traffic is the same for any DDoS provider who relays on more specifically advertising segments of a network for protection.<br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; 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font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Hope this clears everyone questions, if you have any more after reading the long version please just ask !</span></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"></span></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Looking forward to meeting with many of you at AusNOG in Sydney at the Swissôtel on 4 and 5 September 2014.</span></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"></span></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Kindest Regards</span></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"></span></span></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><b><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">James Braunegg</span></span></span></b><br></p><div class="" defang_dir=""><b><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"></span></span></span></b><b><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:8pt">P:</span></span></span></b><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:8pt"> 1300 769 972 | <b>M:</b> 0488 997 207 | <b>D:</b> (03) 9751 7616</span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:8pt"></span></span></span><br></div>
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<p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span class="colour" style="color:black"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"></span></span></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><b><span class="font" style="font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">From:</span></span></b><span class="font" style="font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens</span></span><br></p><div class="" defang_dir=""><span class="font" style="font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 12, 2014 4:55 PM</span></span><br></div>
<div class="" defang_dir=""><span class="font" style="font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"><b>To:</b> Gary Buckmaster</span></span><br></div>
<div class="" defang_dir=""><span class="font" style="font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"><b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</span></span><br></div>
<div class="" defang_dir=""><span class="font" style="font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] BlackLotus Discontinue Free Guardian Service</span></span><br></div>
<p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><br></p><div><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Actually yes.... I learnt more about Micron21 and Blacklotus the other day. But rather than me repeating it and maybe getting it wrong, James, can you explain where Micron21 is like/better than BlackLotus as you have to me recently.<br></p><div><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><br></p></div>
<div><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">I only ask this, not as a sales thing for Micron21, but so the whole community can know the advantages without James having to explain it one by one<br></p></div>
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<div><div><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><b><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Skeeve Stevens - </span></span></b><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></span><br></p></div>
<div><div><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank" style="text-decoration: underline; color: blue;">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/" target="_blank" style="text-decoration: underline; color: blue;">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span></span><br></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve</span></span><br></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"><a href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks" target="_blank" style="text-decoration: underline; color: blue;">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a> ; <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank" style="text-decoration: underline; color: blue;">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a></span></span><br></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"><a href="http://twitter.com/theispguy" target="_blank" style="text-decoration: underline; color: blue;">twitter.com/theispguy</a><span class="colour" style="color:black"> ; blog: </span><a href="http://www.theispguy.com/" target="_blank" style="text-decoration: underline; color: blue;">www.theispguy.com</a></span></span><br></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"><img border="0" src="http://eintellegonetworks.com/logos/ein09.png"></span></span><br></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(127, 0, 127)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">The Experts Who The Experts Call</span></span></span><br></p></div>
<div><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 32, 96)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering</span></span></span><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(127, 0, 127)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10.5pt"></span></span></span><br></p></div>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></p><div><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Gary Buckmaster <<a href="mailto:gary.buckmaster@digitalpacific.com.au" target="_blank" style="text-decoration: underline; color: blue;">gary.buckmaster@digitalpacific.com.au</a>> wrote:<br></p><div><div><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Or for that matter, using a domestic service like Micron21 which is awesome and reasonably priced. <br></p></div>
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<div><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">From: Jared Hirst<br></p></div>
<div><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Date:12/07/2014 15:39 (GMT+10:00)<br></p></div>
<div><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">To: Daniel Watson<br></p></div>
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<div><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">Subject: Re: [AusNOG] BlackLotus Discontinue Free Guardian Service<br></p></div>
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<p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;">It's cheap as to buy and if you find it protects you why not buy it?<br></p><div class="" defang_dir=""> </div>
<div class="" defang_dir="">On Saturday, July 12, 2014, Daniel Watson <<a href="mailto:Daniel@glovine.com.au" target="_blank" style="text-decoration: underline; color: blue;">Daniel@glovine.com.au</a>> wrote:<br></div>
<div><div><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">Hi Guys</span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span lang="EN-AU"></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">I woke up to this email, this morning.</span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span lang="EN-AU"></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span lang="EN-AU">I regret to inform you that after July 31st, we will no longer be offering Free Guardian Service. Any free services you have with Black Lotus will terminate on August 1st 2014. </span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span lang="EN-AU"></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span lang="EN-AU">Please let me know if you are interested in discussing moving to one of our Paid Protection for Networks plans. Since you are currently on Guardian, I can offer you a ramp discount to help with the new cost of the service. </span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span lang="EN-AU"></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span lang="EN-AU">Best Regards, </span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span lang="EN-AU">-- </span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span lang="EN-AU">Christine Gaylor</span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span lang="EN-AU">Sales Team, Black Lotus Communications</span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span lang="EN-AU"></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span lang="EN-AU"></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; margin-right: 0in;"><span lang="EN-AU">I was wondering if any other providers on-list offer a free service or know of any other free services out there?</span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span lang="EN-AU"></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span lang="EN-AU"></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span lang="EN-AU"></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">Regards,</span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">Daniel Watson</span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">Network Administrator / Network Operations Manager</span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span lang="EN-AU"></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">E <a href="mailto:Daniel@GloVine.com.au" style="text-decoration: underline; color: blue;">Daniel@GloVine.com.au</a></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">W <a href="http://www.GloVine.com.au" target="_blank" style="text-decoration: underline; color: blue;">www.GloVine.com.au</a></span><br></p><p style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span lang="EN-AU"></span><br></p></div>
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