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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10-07-14 07:56, Pieter Hulshoff
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10-07-14 02:04, Lincoln Dale
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 7:07 AM,
              Pieter Hulshoff <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                <div class="">On 09-07-14 22:47, Alexander Neilson
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                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> I
                    may be wrong in this however when I have seen this
                    question before I was told that the power needs for
                    pushing 10Gbps over copper cables was greater than
                    what was available over SFP+<br>
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                I've seen similar discussions. From what I could find,
                phys are quickly coming down in power towards the 1.5W
                it needs to be for an SFP+, so this might become viable
                in the not too distant future.<br>
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              <div>Alas, no, you won't just yet.  The next-generation
                10GBASE-T PHYs at 28nm are still not within 1.5W power
                envelope of SFP+, nor is the die size necessary for them
                something that fits inside a SFP+.</div>
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      You may very well be right; I'll have to do some investigating to
      see if there's none on any of the roadmaps either.<br>
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    I ran into this press release from 2013:
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://linleygroup.com/newsletters/newsletter_detail.php?num=5089&year=2013&tag=1">http://linleygroup.com/newsletters/newsletter_detail.php?num=5089&year=2013&tag=1</a>
    : 19 mm^2, and 1.5W for loops < 10m. It seems like it's getting
    there.<br>
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    Kind regards,<br>
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    Pieter Hulshoff<br>
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