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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Kenneth,<br>
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      I'm very impressed with your site, please keep up the good work.<br>
      <br>
      Do you know if the placement of nodes for these sites are designed
      for FTTN, or just happen to be where there is a RIM/Top Hat?<br>
      My point being that if you can control / design the node location,
      you can ensure that most subscribers are within the magic 700-800m
      loop length.<br>
      If you use existing RIM locations then you have no control over
      loop length, which might explain the lower results.<br>
      <br>
      Kind regards,<br>
       - Guy.<br>
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      On 8/07/2014 7:57 PM, Kenneth Tsang wrote:<br>
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        <div>And we are in no way saying that this is the performance
          that end users will get.  Knowing how the current management
          of NBN Co likes to keep information, I doubt we'll be seeing
          any real speed results,sync speeds any time soon.  Heck, there
          still hasn't been a press release from NBN Co to tell us how
          the FTTBuilding trials are going 8 months after they started,
          and that's supposed to be the ones that are giving decent
          VDSL2 sync speeds.  But from what information is available out
          there (overseas comparisons) and estimated line lengths - it
          will give people a "picture" of what users can expect to get.</div>
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        Also, we've realised that an <i>average (i.e mean)</i> is
        probably not the best representation of speeds and so, a median
        is now included.
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        <div>And in relation to the OP's argument, the areas chosen for
          the trials are mostly high density with small DA coverage
          areas.  The Caboolture area does include some larger sized DAs
          in the outskirts, which has dragged the median down to
          ~36mbps.</div>
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        <div>Regards,</div>
        <div>Kenneth Tsang</div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Jake
            Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            wrote:<br>
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              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Did you
              actually read the article?<br>
              The <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://mynbn.info"
                target="_blank">mynbn.info</a> website has created
              *theoretical* performance figures for trial sites.<br>
              As in line sync rates, nothing to do with ISPs.<br>
              <br>
              The argument put forth by the OP is that those trial sites
              have been selected to give the best speeds.
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                <div class="h5"><br>
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                  On 08/07/14 18:41, Bradley Amm wrote:<br>
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                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                    Am I'm sure they used cheap congested ISP's like
                    Exetel and DevotedNBN or Dodo<br>
                    I can get 100Mbit on iiNet NBN at a Display Home<br>
                    <br>
                    The NBN isn't the problem. The ISP's are<br>
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                    Kind Regards<br>
                    <br>
                    Bradley Amm<br>
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                    On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker<br>
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                    Subject: [AusNOG] The Average (Theoretical) Speed Of
                    The FTTN NBN So Far Is 46Mbps<br>
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                    I am sure they have handpicked some areas to get the
                    best results<br>
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