<div dir="ltr"><div style>Let's consider:</div><div style><br></div>- Devices must be switched off during takeoff and landing. <div style>- Once an aircraft reaches cruising altitude and you can turn on your device, it's already in a "regional" area</div>
<div style>- ACMA "regional" boundaries allow for cheap spectrum licences in bands not useful for regular handheld mobile (>3.5Ghz)</div><div style>- Boeing and Cisco have certified WiFi solutions for inside the plane</div>
<div style>- 40Mhz of spectrum in clear air on LTE advanced will give you gigabit speeds, 100km cell radius, compatibility with existing networks and handover that is ok with 600km/h</div><div style>- If you're pointing an antenna "straight up" then it doesn't need a tower, just some way to keep cows and sheep off it</div>
<div style>- NBN is bringing backhaul and connectivity to all regional areas (ok, maybe this part is stretching belief)</div><div style>- There are enough flights between Melbourne and Sydney each day to pay for a national network (minus Perth), based on just a 10% takeup.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>VC's feel free to contact me off list ;)</div><div style><br></div><div style>John</div><div style><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 8 July 2014 10:43, Curtis Bayne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:curtis@bayne.com.au" target="_blank">curtis@bayne.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Skeeve,<br><br>It's the ground connectivity segment which is challenging - there is no unified ground network in Australia. The USA has had a long legacy of allocating and using spectrum for air to ground communications (remember Airfone?).<br>
<br></div>Satellite connectivity for planes is hard and expensive (Inmarsat's Swift64s seem to be the standard from my limited exposure). The best we could probably hope for is that Telstra puts a few sky-facing sectors on NextG towers along busy routes and someone designs a fuselage-mounted 850Mhz omnidirectional MIMO antenna that doesn't crack and cause rapid depressurization of the craft like some of the SATCOM antennas ;).<br>
<br>Regards,<br>Curtis<br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Skeeve Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Virgin are half way there... they are introducing/have introduced WiFi in-flight entertainment systems so you can BYOD... makes a hell of a lot of sense.<div>
<br></div><div>Shouldn't be too much of a drama to add internet to it.</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Joel,<br></div><div><br>It's absolutely crazy this isn't available in Australia. The FAA has allowed transmitters on American flights for a number of years now and CASA, as usual, are dragging the chain.<br>
<br></div>Mobile phone reception on planes actually isn't too bad below 25000ft considering the downward elevation with which the sectors are usually aligned. I've got a friend who is a commercial domestic airline pilot - he reckons the bottom on the cockpit window is the best place to stick your phone on hotspot mode in Boeing aircraft ;)<br>
<br><br></div><div>Regards,<br></div><div>Curtis<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Zone Networks - Joel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joel@zonenetworks.com.au" target="_blank">joel@zonenetworks.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-AU"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Guys<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Slightly off topic but was wondering if anyone has recently used the internet connection on international flights from Sydney to USA<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">
I know the following airlines have it available<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Singapore <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Emirates<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">
United Airlines<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Pity Qantas doesn’t…<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Have used it a lot within Domestic US flights but since I fly mostly Qantas have no experience with other airlines on International flights<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Please reply off the list unless others are interested as well.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Regards<span><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></p>
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