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<div>Looks like it's already happening (or getting close):</div>
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<div><a href="http://www.ausbt.com.au/telstra-tests-4g-inflight-internet-for-sydney-melbourne-route">http://www.ausbt.com.au/telstra-tests-4g-inflight-internet-for-sydney-melbourne-route</a></div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>John Edwards <<a href="mailto:jaedwards@gmail.com">jaedwards@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Tuesday, 8 July 2014 12:03 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a href="mailto:curtis@bayne.com.au">curtis@bayne.com.au</a>" <<a href="mailto:curtis@bayne.com.au">curtis@bayne.com.au</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>"<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [AusNOG] WIFI/Internet on Planes<br>
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<div style="">Let's consider:</div>
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- Devices must be switched off during takeoff and landing.
<div style="">- Once an aircraft reaches cruising altitude and you can turn on your device, it's already in a "regional" area</div>
<div style="">- ACMA "regional" boundaries allow for cheap spectrum licences in bands not useful for regular handheld mobile (>3.5Ghz)</div>
<div style="">- Boeing and Cisco have certified WiFi solutions for inside the plane</div>
<div style="">- 40Mhz of spectrum in clear air on LTE advanced will give you gigabit speeds, 100km cell radius, compatibility with existing networks and handover that is ok with 600km/h</div>
<div style="">- If you're pointing an antenna "straight up" then it doesn't need a tower, just some way to keep cows and sheep off it</div>
<div style="">- NBN is bringing backhaul and connectivity to all regional areas (ok, maybe this part is stretching belief)</div>
<div style="">- There are enough flights between Melbourne and Sydney each day to pay for a national network (minus Perth), based on just a 10% takeup.</div>
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<div style="">VC's feel free to contact me off list ;)</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 8 July 2014 10:43, Curtis Bayne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:curtis@bayne.com.au" target="_blank">curtis@bayne.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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It's the ground connectivity segment which is challenging - there is no unified ground network in Australia. The USA has had a long legacy of allocating and using spectrum for air to ground communications (remember Airfone?).<br>
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Satellite connectivity for planes is hard and expensive (Inmarsat's Swift64s seem to be the standard from my limited exposure). The best we could probably hope for is that Telstra puts a few sky-facing sectors on NextG towers along busy routes and someone designs
a fuselage-mounted 850Mhz omnidirectional MIMO antenna that doesn't crack and cause rapid depressurization of the craft like some of the SATCOM antennas ;).<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Skeeve Stevens <span dir="ltr">
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<div dir="ltr">Virgin are half way there... they are introducing/have introduced WiFi in-flight entertainment systems so you can BYOD... makes a hell of a lot of sense.
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<div>Shouldn't be too much of a drama to add internet to it.</div>
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It's absolutely crazy this isn't available in Australia. The FAA has allowed transmitters on American flights for a number of years now and CASA, as usual, are dragging the chain.<br>
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Mobile phone reception on planes actually isn't too bad below 25000ft considering the downward elevation with which the sectors are usually aligned. I've got a friend who is a commercial domestic airline pilot - he reckons the bottom on the cockpit window is
the best place to stick your phone on hotspot mode in Boeing aircraft ;)<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Zone Networks - Joel <span dir="ltr">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Guys<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Slightly off topic but was wondering if anyone has recently used the internet connection on international flights from Sydney to USA<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I know the following airlines have it available<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Singapore <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Emirates<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">United Airlines<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Pity Qantas doesn’t…<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Have used it a lot within Domestic US flights but since I fly mostly Qantas have no experience with other airlines on International flights<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please reply off the list unless others are interested as well.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards<span><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></p>
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