<div dir="ltr">What I mean is... any allocations they have done already, they have pooched.<div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br>...Skeeve</div><div><br></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Jeroen Massar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeroen@massar.ch" target="_blank">jeroen@massar.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On 2014-07-03 01:35, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
> OK... so here goes.<br>
><br>
> My opinion is that what SAGE is doing is well meaning, but ultimately<br>
> problematic.<br>
<br>
Fully agree.<br>
<br>
> They should not be breaking down their /32 for members to announce /48's.<br>
<br>
Exactly.<br>
<br>
[..]<br>
> The key issue here is that SAGE's /32 allocation is from a block, where<br>
> if strict BOGON listing is used, means their member routes will be dropped.<br>
><br>
> For example, the current ipv6 BOGON list is:<br>
> (<a href="http://www.space.net/~gert/RIPE/ipv6-filters.html" target="_blank">http://www.space.net/~gert/RIPE/ipv6-filters.html</a>)<br>
<br>
Exactly the filters that are applied around the world. Evidence enough<br>
about this on the ipv6-ops@cluenet lists and otherwise just google for<br>
Cloudflare + IPv6 for lots of fun stories.<br>
<br>
> So... sorry SAGE, but you pooched this one.<br>
<br>
Not yet. They just have to move to a different model: play LIR and<br>
handle the paperwork for requesting PI /48s (or larger) for their<br>
members; this instead of having a /32 and playing transit for their members.<br>
<br>
Greets,<br>
Jeroen<br>
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