<div dir="ltr">Yes DG... one of the services I recently arranged for an ISP is capacity with another ISP over Megaport, but the VxC is not up.<div><br></div><div>So what the deal was.. and I am happy to give specifics without saying who..</div>

<div><br></div><div>$250/month holding fee which included pre-configuration such as routes, VLANs, BGP, ACL's, upstream announces all ready, but VxC is not up or configured (Megaport will hopefully be doing connections at some point which can be in 'sleep mode' but configured and presumably not being charged).  The capacity was for 100mb and the price was charged at $2.50 per Mb per day.</div>

<div><br></div><div>The whole point of this was as emergency capacity with no term involved.  So yes, if you used it you'd be paying $75/mb/month - but the benefit of being able to bring up another provider on demand within minutes is very valuable.</div>

<div><br></div><div>These kinds of creative offerings are what excites me about the future of VxC.  At the moment you wouldn't build a permanent core on a VxC, but with multiple fabrics combined with physical infrastructure, I could see this as a very viable method to building a network in the next year or two.</div>

<div><br></div><div>Combine that with things like Cisco's InterCloud where you may be able to get access to capacity for Cisco technology from layer 3 functionality, LNS, CGN, firewalls, etc etc all from a X-Connect (virtual or otherwise).  I am sure that other vendors will also be paying close attention to what Cisco offers and figuring out how to 'on demand' their kit/technology/products.</div>

<div><br></div><div>I wonder when I will be able to build a small ISP, not VISP as such, but ISPaaS using multiple IaaS providers, wholesalers without having any physical infrastructure whatsoever.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra">

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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Damien Gardner Jnr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net" target="_blank">rendrag@rendrag.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div style="word-wrap:break-word">That would be insanely cool.  But the need to provide LoA’s and wait for them to be accepted by the new upstream’s upstream, would be a bit of a killer.. You’d need to pre-organise it all just incase you needed it..?<div>

<br></div><div>—DG</div><div><br><div><div>On 2 Jul 2014, at 9:36 pm, Chris Gibbs <<a href="mailto:Chris.Gibbs@gosford.nsw.gov.au" target="_blank">Chris.Gibbs@gosford.nsw.gov.au</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">

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<div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Good video Skeeve.<u></u><u></u></span></div>

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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Expanding your rationale, instead of purchasing overhead in transit speed, wouldn’t it be more efficient to source transit over megaport (or other??) and pay per hour/day/month/whatever. Potentially even grabbing upstream from a ‘transit broker’ (I don’t even know if they exist?) that is a clearing house for current unused upsteam? Similar to spot reserve in EC2 I’d imagine<u></u><u></u></span></div>

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<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Sure have dedicated upstream for known traffic patterns but ‘burst’ out for anything else.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">

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<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Wednesday, 2 July 2014 6:30 PM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span><a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>[AusNOG] Thoughts about IP Transit<u></u><u></u></span></div>

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This is a follow-up video relating to the current state of the transit space discussion recently.  I thought I would get some thoughts out of my head as a lot of people ask me about transit and I thought others might find it useful.<u></u><u></u></div>

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This video isn't meant to stir up people, but I am sure it may, especially those selling transit in a certain way.  This video is more about educating people about the value of transit in certain kinds of ways.  It is about 14 mins long, but I'd like to know what you thought if you have time to watch it.<u></u><u></u></div>

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