<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>The Tophat RIMs are already vdsl2 capable.</div><div><br></div><div>The trial will be to supply consumers with new CPE and turn it on. </div><div><br></div><div>The rest is just theatre to distract voters and interminable meetings to discuss processes. <br><br><div>John Lindsay</div></div><div><br>On 27 Jun 2014, at 10:38 pm, Jake Anderson <<a href="mailto:yahoo@vapourforge.com">yahoo@vapourforge.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I have the feeling that this FTTN
rollout is going to consist of replacing rims with "nodes" and
seeing how it falls out in terms of speed. (keeping in mind there
are no guarantees any more) If the screaming isn't too loud then
that's FTTN roll-out validated.<br>
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It'll also mean hitting their 12 month time frame is feasible.<br>
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I believe that MT would be pushing for customers to provide their
own CPE, more "competition" that way.<br>
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On 27/06/14 21:29, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:<br>
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‘Up To’, as in, if you’re already on a RIM, (which is technically
FTTN anyway, 4x2mbps or 4x155mbps fibres), you’re stuck? :-p
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<div>On 27 Jun 2014, at 6:25 pm, Damian Guppy <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:the.damo@gmail.com">the.damo@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">The Telstra deal has been announced as "Up
To" 100mbps down / 40mbps up on VDSL.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 4:13 PM,
Radek Tkaczyk <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:radek@tkaczyk.id.au" target="_blank">radek@tkaczyk.id.au</a>></span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Apparently
areas that are FTTN will have 50Mbps…. But I
don’t believe it. Trials have shown 106Mbps…
but that was probably only at the house next
door to the node!</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">What
I want to know, is what will be the modem/NTU
device required with an FTTN connection? Will
we being using ADSL/VDSL modems that the end
users have to supply (as it currently is with
ADSL) or will NBNCo provide a copper based NTU
of some sort?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">One
of the things I loved about the FTTH design
was that the NTD that was deployed by NBNCo
allowed 4 separate data connections, and 2
separate voice connections, all on the one
box, and was managed by NBNCo.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">So
if someone was really greedy, they could get 4
x 100Mbps connections from 4 different
providers!</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">And
then we didn’t have to deal with the crappy
ADSL CPE issues from end users with dodgy
devices like we see these days.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Regards,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Ph:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:0413%20383%20231" value="+61413383231" target="_blank">0413
383 231</a></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Looks like the
NBN will be the TBN!</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What if we live in that
rollout area, and already have FTTN? is
that it? 1.5 mbps for life?</p>
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Network<br>
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