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      Here's some real world line stats from my FTTN VDSL2 line. Line
      length is about 800m (could have been 400m, but the cable goes the
      wrong way down the street, cabinet is a couple of streets over).<br>
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          VDSL Training Status:   Showtime<br>
                  VDSL Profile:   Profile 8b<br>
                  Traffic Type:   PTM Mode<br>
                   Link Uptime:   16 days: 17 hours: 53 minutes<br>
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             VDSL Port Details       Upstream         Downstream<br>
                     Line Rate:     10.436 Mbps       48.738 Mbps<br>
          Actual Net Data Rate:     10.351 Mbps       48.665 Mbps<br>
                Trellis Coding:         ON                ON<br>
                    SNR Margin:       16.9 dB            2.6 dB<br>
                  Actual Delay:          0 ms              0 ms<br>
                Transmit Power:        0.3 dBm          13.6 dBm<br>
                 Receive Power:        3.0 dBm           2.4 dBm<br>
                    Actual INP:        0.0 symbols       0.0 symbols<br>
             Total Attenuation:        1.7 dB           11.3 dB<br>
      Attainable Net Data Rate:     13.704 Mbps       38.280 Mbps<br>
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      speedtest.net gives me 45 down 9.8 up. Sync speed varies...
      sometimes down to 30Mbps. It's currently high because we had a
      power outage 17 days ago and I was one of the first back online.<br>
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      Matt.<br>
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      On 27/06/2014 8:25 p.m., Damian Guppy wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">The Telstra deal has been announced as "Up To"
        100mbps down / 40mbps up on VDSL. 
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        <div>--Damian</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Radek
          Tkaczyk <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:radek@tkaczyk.id.au" target="_blank">radek@tkaczyk.id.au</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Apparently
                    areas that are FTTN will have 50Mbps…. But I don’t
                    believe it. Trials have shown 106Mbps… but that was
                    probably only at the house next door to the node!</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">What
                    I want to know, is what will be the modem/NTU device
                    required with an FTTN connection? Will we being
                    using ADSL/VDSL modems that the end users have to
                    supply (as it currently is with ADSL) or will NBNCo
                    provide a copper based NTU of some sort?</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">One
                    of the things I loved about the FTTH design was that
                    the NTD that was deployed by NBNCo allowed 4
                    separate data connections, and 2 separate voice
                    connections, all on the one box, and was managed by
                    NBNCo.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">So
                    if someone was really greedy, they could get 4 x
                    100Mbps connections from 4 different providers!</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">And
                    then we didn’t have to deal with the crappy ADSL CPE
                    issues from end users with dodgy devices like we see
                    these days.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Regards,</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Radek</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Ph:
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="tel:0413%20383%20231" value="+61413383231"
                      target="_blank">0413 383 231</a></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:radek@tkaczyk.id.au" target="_blank">radek@tkaczyk.id.au</a></span></p>
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                      lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                    lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [mailto:<a
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                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben Cooper<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Friday, 27 June 2014 5:18 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Phil Pierotti<br>
                    <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"
                      target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Looks like the NBN will
                    be the TBN!</span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">What if we live in that
                        rollout area, and already have FTTN? is that it?
                        1.5 mbps for life?</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at
                          5:02 PM, Phil Pierotti <<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:Phil.Pierotti@day3.com.au"
                            target="_blank">Phil.Pierotti@day3.com.au</a>>
                          wrote:</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">Total Bull / Terribly Bad /
                          Two Bit / Telstra Borg'd / Tonys Broken<br>
                          Network<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          Phil Pierotti<br>
                          Senior Network Engineer<br>
                          day3 Solutions / Clear Networks<br>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Ben Cooper</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">CEO</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">Zeno Holdings PTY LTD</p>
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                                href="tel:%2B61%207%203503%208553"
                                value="+61735038553" target="_blank">+61
                                7 3503 8553</a></span></p>
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