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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/06/2014 6:13 PM, Radek Tkaczyk
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            areas that are FTTN will have 50Mbps…. But I don’t believe
            it. Trials have shown 106Mbps… but that was probably only at
            the house next door to the node!</span></p>
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    According to Alcatel-Lucent stats from international trials (copper
    gauge not revealed) (in CommsDay this morning) downstream rates with
    vectoring had worst-case-in-bundle downstream rates of ~ 65 Mbps on
    500 meters copper.<br>
    Looking at the announced areas where this Telstra network will be
    built, it doesn't seem like they've cherry-picked areas with short
    copper runs - so perhaps we'll see 65+ Mbps as well. (in fact, I'm
    sure we will, even if they have to replace a few lower-speed lines
    before the trial stats are released!)<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">And
            then we didn’t have to deal with the crappy ADSL CPE issues
            from end users with dodgy devices like we see these days.</span></p>
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    You'll probably still need to deal with this - the customer will
    still need a router/NAT/WiFi gateway of some sort - if NBN Co supply
    the VDSL2 CPE, the user will use a dodgy gateway with an Ethernet
    WAN port instead of a ADSL WAN port, just like a HFC connection.<br>
    <br>
    Paul.<br>
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