<div dir="ltr">Hi Barry,<div><br></div><div>As someone who specialises in building small-isps for people, if you are trying to compete on price directly... close up show and go grow Kale.</div><div><br></div><div>You need to have a value-add of some sort... something that gives people a reason to not only stay with you, but is willing to pay you a higher amount than they otherwise would.</div>
<div><br></div><div>There are many ways to accomplish this... </div><div><br></div><div>Don't expect buying groups to really help you... numbers, even into the thousands make very little difference on base costs, and the price of transit is so low now that it shouldn't be a basis of cost.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The biggest pricing killer for most ISPs is that of AGVC/backhaul because that is where the wholesalers can still make some money... until someone undercuts that market. Also, new hardware to handle new NBN style speeds is also causing a lot of cost these days.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Again... differentiate your business... selling tails <b>only</b> is the fastest way into the the red... and don't think your assets are worth anything if you try to sell out either. I've seen grown men cry when told what people will pay for the passion project they've spent 10 years building.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Just being direct and honest here... not meant to offend.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br>...Skeeve</div><div><br></div><div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Spinfx <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spinfx64@gmail.com" target="_blank">spinfx64@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><font size="-1"><font face="Arial">Hi All,<br>
<br>
<br>
As a small country ISP, we only operate and sell into our local region
and although our support service has been described as excellent, we
are still losing clients to the BIG ISPs with thier low price deals.
Clients leaving us, explain thier reluctance to leave us and and at the
end of the day, say its because of the better pricing. I can imagine
its the same for alot of small ISP's out there.<br>
<br>
Does anyone have any information on any Buying groups for small to medium ISPs ?<br>
<br>
or is interested in forming one ?<br>
<br>
<br>
We have access to all the services, we just need the economies of scale to help us and <br>
being in a buying group is the only way that I can think of, that will allow us to get that better pricing and compete.<br>
Not to mention that we can help each other in terms of technical assistance and product knowledge that we can share or assist in any major problems faced.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Barry the small ISP Man.<br></font></font></div>
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