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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Perhaps you would prefer that they hire some intern/flunky/shell-script to auto-reply with a standard form-letter?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>At least if you wrangle yourself an in-the-flesh meeting (or, at worst, a phone call) you can be sure that said member/representative has actually received your expression of concern.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It’s all too easy to hit the delete button on an email, it’s at least a little harder to ignore a reasonable concern when it’s raised in person and if necessary argued sensibly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Phil Pierotti</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>Senior Network Engineer<br><b>day3 Solutions</b><br><br></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Hudson<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 11 June 2014 11:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> Matthew Perkins<br><b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] So, who is joining iiNet?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>My local member's lackeys were handing out "email me" flyers last week. I emailed, no response.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So yes, it seems phone calls and/or visits are the effective means of communication. I'll be doing so, and complaining that after asking for emails, he ignored them.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 11 June 2014 11:01, Matthew Perkins <<a href="mailto:matt@spectrum.com.au" target="_blank">matt@spectrum.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Write a letter (snail mail) to <br><br>The Attorney General <br>The Communications Minister<br>Your local Federal Member<br><br>Also calling your local member is always worthwhile. They can also never really resists you asking to make an appointment to come and meet with them to voice your concerns. <br><br><br>Matt.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 11/06/2014 10:52 am, Nick Gale wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>In the current political environment... pretty much. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>------------------------------------------------<br><b><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Nick Gale</span></b> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Webdings;color:green'><br>P</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:green'> Please consider the environment before you print this email.</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 11 June 2014 08:47, Burt Mascareigne <<a href="mailto:burt@prioritycomputer.com.au" target="_blank">burt@prioritycomputer.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Soooo…. How does the will of the people get heard? Do I have to go and get my pitchfork?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=170 style='width:127.5pt'><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=57 height=53 id="_x0000_i1040" src="cid:image001.png@01CF8568.4E5107E0"><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p align=right style='text-align:right'><span style='font-size:8.0pt'>Burt Mascareigne<br>Technician<br>Mob: 0414 450 962</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=57 height=47 id="_x0000_i1041" src="cid:image002.png@01CF8568.4E5107E0"><o:p></o:p></p></td><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=113 height=47 id="_x0000_i1042" src="cid:image003.png@01CF8568.4E5107E0"><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0cm'><span style='font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif"'>Your Needs, Our Priority</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joseph Goldman<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 11 June 2014 10:27 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] So, who is joining iiNet?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>It makes sense to me - an online petition, unless sanctioned, run and reviewed by government department(s), could technically be made up of mostly 'fake' votes, with little effort by a single individual.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On 11/06/14 10:23, Alex Zaia wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Do you have a source for this?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I'd be interested in seeing just how little effort goes into listening to the voice of the people.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#333333'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----------</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Alex Zaia</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Geordie Guy <<a href="mailto:elomis@gmail.com" target="_blank">elomis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p>Online petitions are almost always inadmissible in parliament under parliamentary rules. They are binned without being read.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On 11/06/2014 9:40 AM, "Terry Sweetser (SkyMesh CTO)" <<a href="mailto:terry%2BAusNOG@skymesh.net.au" target="_blank">terry+AusNOG@skymesh.net.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>Where's the online petition?<br><br><a href="http://about.me/terry.sweetser" target="_blank">http://about.me/terry.sweetser</a><br><br>On 11/06/14 01:58, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Regarding iiNet's urging to its customers to petition against the Australian Governments proposed changes to copyright legislation - link: <a href="http://www.itnews.com.au/News/387813,iinet-urges-consumers-to-lobby-govt-on-piracy-changes.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.itnews.com.au/News/387813,iinet-urges-consumers-to-lobby-govt-on-piracy-changes.aspx</a><br><br>Who is going to be joining them?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>AusNOG mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>AusNOG mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><pre><span style='color:#888888'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:#888888'>/* Matt Perkins <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:#888888'> Direct 1300 137 379 Spectrum Networks Ptd. 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