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On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Steve Smalley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:SSmalley@trimblenetworks.com.au" target="_blank">SSmalley@trimblenetworks.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">







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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">These days I get the impression the politicians don’t represent the people but the party and those that “donate” to the party.  Money
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Barnes<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 11 June 2014 10:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Burt Mascareigne<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a></span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] So, who is joining iiNet?<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think these days you need to start a civil war. Think Syria.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Burt Mascareigne <<a href="mailto:burt@prioritycomputer.com.au" target="_blank">burt@prioritycomputer.com.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Soooo…. How does the will of the people get heard?  Do I have to go and get my pitchfork?</span><u></u><u></u></p>


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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joseph Goldman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 11 June 2014 10:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] So, who is joining iiNet?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">It makes sense to me - an online petition, unless sanctioned, run and reviewed by government department(s), could technically be made up of mostly 'fake' votes, with little effort by
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 11/06/14 10:23, Alex Zaia wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I'd be interested in seeing just how little effort goes into listening to the voice of the people.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Geordie Guy <<a href="mailto:elomis@gmail.com" target="_blank">elomis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Online petitions are almost always inadmissible in parliament under parliamentary rules. They are binned without being read.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 11/06/2014 9:40 AM, "Terry Sweetser (SkyMesh CTO)" <<a href="mailto:terry%2BAusNOG@skymesh.net.au" target="_blank">terry+AusNOG@skymesh.net.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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Where's the online petition?<br>
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<a href="http://about.me/terry.sweetser" target="_blank">http://about.me/terry.sweetser</a><br>
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On 11/06/14 01:58, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Regarding iiNet's urging to its customers to petition against the Australian Governments proposed changes to copyright legislation - link:
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Who is going to be joining them?<u></u><u></u></p>
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