<div dir="ltr">Dalby's response is right on the money. We're sick and tired of being months and months behind the releases of Tv shows and Movies. <div><br></div><div>The question is what's the best way to tackle this? Form letter with well written arguments to ensure the message is unified and collective?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Is Ausnog Board going to release any statements on this subject?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Christopher Mclean <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cjm@ausoptic.com" target="_blank">cjm@ausoptic.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>You are not too far off the mark with this. The minister has somebody vet the letters/emails and you will find his/her assistants assistants assistant will actually write the reply often with the minister unaware they have received the complaint/advice.</div>
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<div>Sharpen those pitchforks. I'm sure there with be a burning torch app for your phone (reduces carbon footprint)</div>
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<div style="DIRECTION:ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] on behalf of Phil Pierotti [<a href="mailto:Phil.Pierotti@day3.com.au" target="_blank">Phil.Pierotti@day3.com.au</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 11 June 2014 11:29 AM<div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] So, who is joining iiNet?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d">Perhaps you would prefer that they hire some intern/flunky/shell-script to auto-reply with a standard form-letter?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d">At least if you wrangle yourself an in-the-flesh meeting (or, at worst, a phone call) you can be sure that said member/representative has actually received
your expression of concern.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:11pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d">It’s all too easy to hit the delete button on an email, it’s at least a little harder to ignore a reasonable concern when it’s raised in person and if necessary
argued sensibly.</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Hudson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 11 June 2014 11:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew Perkins<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] So, who is joining iiNet?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My local member's lackeys were handing out "email me" flyers last week. I emailed, no response.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So yes, it seems phone calls and/or visits are the effective means of communication. I'll be doing so, and complaining that after asking for emails, he ignored them.</p>
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The Attorney General <br>
The Communications Minister<br>
Your local Federal Member<br>
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Also calling your local member is always worthwhile. They can also never really resists you asking to make an appointment to come and meet with them to voice your concerns.
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Matt.</p>
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P</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:9.5pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Arial","sans-serif";COLOR:green"> Please consider the environment before you print this email.</span><span style="FONT-SIZE:9.5pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Arial","sans-serif""> </span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joseph Goldman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 11 June 2014 10:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] So, who is joining iiNet?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt">It makes sense to me - an online petition, unless sanctioned, run and reviewed by government department(s), could technically be made up of mostly 'fake' votes, with little effort by a single individual.</p>
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<p>Online petitions are almost always inadmissible in parliament under parliamentary rules. They are binned without being read.</p>
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Where's the online petition?<br>
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<a href="http://about.me/terry.sweetser" target="_blank">http://about.me/terry.sweetser</a><br>
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On 11/06/14 01:58, Skeeve Stevens wrote:</p>
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Who is going to be joining them?</p>
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