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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Yes we lost almost all of our ATM's in
      VIC at 5.44 and they were restored at 5.51. Could not find an
      outage notification. They all came back on there own however which
      was good. I know what you mean about the re-build. Every month or
      so we loose just one PVC on an ATM that has multiple PVC's we do a
      rebuild and it comes back.  Thank god for the rebuild option it
      fixes all manner of service problems.<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Matt.<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 10/06/14 8:13 AM, Nathan Brookfield wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Has
            anyone else found that every VIC/SA service they have this
            morning dropped at approximately 0530hrs and did not come
            back online? I am finding if I log-in to Frontier and
            rebuild the AAPT DSLAM port the service comes back online
            but otherwise cannot be restored from a power cycle etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Kindest
            Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#365F91">Nathan
            Brookfield (VK2NAB)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#365F91"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#365F91">Chief
            Executive Officer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            (02) 4749 4949
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            (02) 4749 4951<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#365F91">:
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                style="color:#365F91">http://www.simtronic.com.au</span></a>
            <b>|</b> <b>E-mail</b>: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:nathan.brookfield@simtronic.com.au"><span
                style="color:#365F91">nathan.brookfield@simtronic.com.au</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
                lang="EN-US"> AusNOG
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alex Samad - Yieldbroker<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, 6 June 2014 9:46 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Shane Short; Rod Veith<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] AAPT / TPG Merge NWB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Like
            any good business they compete on profits.  Not best product
            or best service.  Why should 2 companies compete when they
            can divide …<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">A<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
                    lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
                  lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Shane Short<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Friday, 6 June 2014 1:00 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Rod Veith<br>
                  <b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] AAPT / TPG Merge NWB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Competition has been our apparent saviour
            for the last mile for the last decade (or when the
            local-loop was deregulated, whichever was first), but it's
            never come. This whole notion of "leave it up to the
            Telco's, they'll compete and everyone wins" is complete
            bullshit. Telco's cherry-pick last mile installations that
            make sense to them-- ignoring everybody else; which
            amusingly, is exactly where we are now.<br>
            <br>
            I'm not saying a regulated incumbent last mile provider
            isn't without it's flaws, but in my mind it's the best
            option we've got.<br>
            <br>
            -Shane<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            Rod Veith wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
              can just see me under the last mile competition scenario
              calling ‘my telco’ and asking them to put on the internet
              for me in my cul-de-sac court in ‘name-your-suburb’ and
              having them say:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
              style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt
                "Times New Roman"">     
              </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Not
              a problem Rod, we’ll do that for you, it will take 2 days 
              ---  after our planning people take 2-12 months looking at
              your request (sorry we’re snowed under with everyone
              wanting access to the internet and phone services),
              another 2-3 months co-ordinating with the duct owner to
              obtain duct access, 1 day to install termination box in
              house,  2-3 months delay queuing with the civil works
              section (they are flat out as well), 3 days hauling cable
              to your house, another 3 months as the completion request
              got lost somewhere, another visit to connect fibre router,
              1 min to turn on service -  oops wrong house, sorry what
              address are you at again?  And this assumes they already
              have fibre to your nearest node point or</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoListParagraph"
            style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
              style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt
                "Times New Roman"">     
              </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(Delay
              as the customer service representative stifles some
              laughter after looking up your address), sorry Mr Rod we
              do not service that area, please check back with us in 2
              years time.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Rod</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                    lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                  lang="EN-US"> Paul Wallace [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:paul.wallace@mtgi.com.au">mailto:paul.wallace@mtgi.com.au</a>]
                  <br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 5 June 2014 7:43 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Graeme Allen; Rod Veith; <a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> RE: [AusNOG] AAPT / TPG Merge NWB</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Rod
              –</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Could
              you kindly set out your reasoning in support of your
              contention that “</span><span
              style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">It
              is the last place competition makes sense.”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">??
              thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
              style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">-P</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Graeme Allen<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 5 June 2014 7:17 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Rod Veith; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] AAPT / TPG Merge NWB</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Here here! A
            single regulated national railway to Sydney is all we will
            ever need. Legislate those pesky airlines and roads out of
            existence, put in non-complete clauses so no-one can ever
            build anything else ever again, and we can all live in a
            prescribed governmental nirvana, its a model that's been
            proven to work again and again.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On 5 June 2014 19:04:25 GMT+10:00, Rod
              Veith <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:rod@rb.net.au">rod@rb.net.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                Paul</span><i> </i><i><span
                  style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">"……</span>
              </i><i><span
                  style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Last
                  mile infrastructure competition would be a huge bonus
                  for Australian consumers."</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">It
                is the last place competition makes sense. Should we</span>
              <span
                style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">also</span>
              <span
                style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
                have 4 providers of railway lines to Sydney? or</span> <span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
                3 driveways into your house?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">A
                national provider, under regulation</span>,<span
                style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
                makes the most sense for Australia. Competition is not
                right cure for all problems.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rod</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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