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<div>They ended up sending a notification out at 0852 advising the issue was the result of power loss.</div>
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<div>Amen to the ability to rebuild services!</div>
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On 10 Jun 2014, at 9:22, "Matt Perkins" <<a href="mailto:matt@spectrum.com.au">matt@spectrum.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Yes we lost almost all of our ATM's in VIC at 5.44 and they were restored at 5.51. Could not find an outage notification. They all came back on there own however which was good. I know what you mean about the re-build. Every month
or so we loose just one PVC on an ATM that has multiple PVC's we do a rebuild and it comes back. Thank god for the rebuild option it fixes all manner of service problems.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Has anyone else found that every VIC/SA service they have this morning dropped at approximately 0530hrs and did not come back online? I am finding if I log-in
to Frontier and rebuild the AAPT DSLAM port the service comes back online but otherwise cannot be restored from a power cycle etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Kindest Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#365F91">Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#365F91">Chief Executive Officer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#365F91">Local:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#365F91"> (02) 4749 4949
<b>|</b> <b>Fax:</b> (02) 4749 4950 <b>|</b> <b>Direct:</b> (02) 4749 4951<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>|</b> <b>E-mail</b>: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nathan.brookfield@simtronic.com.au">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alex Samad - Yieldbroker<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 6 June 2014 9:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shane Short; Rod Veith<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] AAPT / TPG Merge NWB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Like any good business they compete on profits. Not best product or best service. Why should 2 companies compete when they can divide …<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext" lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Shane Short<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 6 June 2014 1:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rod Veith<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] AAPT / TPG Merge NWB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Competition has been our apparent saviour for the last mile for the last decade (or when the local-loop was deregulated, whichever was first), but it's never come. This whole notion of "leave it up to the Telco's, they'll compete and everyone
wins" is complete bullshit. Telco's cherry-pick last mile installations that make sense to them-- ignoring everybody else; which amusingly, is exactly where we are now.<br>
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I'm not saying a regulated incumbent last mile provider isn't without it's flaws, but in my mind it's the best option we've got.<br>
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-Shane<br>
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Rod Veith wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I can just see me under the last mile competition scenario calling ‘my telco’ and asking them to put on the internet for me in my cul-de-sac court in ‘name-your-suburb’
and having them say:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Not a problem Rod, we’ll do that for you, it will take 2 days --- after our planning people take 2-12 months looking at your request (sorry we’re snowed
under with everyone wanting access to the internet and phone services), another 2-3 months co-ordinating with the duct owner to obtain duct access, 1 day to install termination box in house, 2-3 months delay queuing with the civil works section (they are
flat out as well), 3 days hauling cable to your house, another 3 months as the completion request got lost somewhere, another visit to connect fibre router, 1 min to turn on service - oops wrong house, sorry what address are you at again? And this assumes
they already have fibre to your nearest node point or</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">(Delay as the customer service representative stifles some laughter after looking up your address), sorry Mr Rod we do not service that area, please
check back with us in 2 years time.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 5 June 2014 7:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Graeme Allen; Rod Veith; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">
ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [AusNOG] AAPT / TPG Merge NWB</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Rod –</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Could you kindly set out your reasoning in support of your contention that “</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">It is the last place competition
makes sense.”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">?? thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">-P</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Graeme Allen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 5 June 2014 7:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rod Veith; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] AAPT / TPG Merge NWB</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Here here! A single regulated national railway to Sydney is all we will ever need. Legislate those pesky airlines and roads out of existence, put in non-complete clauses so no-one can ever build anything else
ever again, and we can all live in a prescribed governmental nirvana, its a model that's been proven to work again and again.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 5 June 2014 19:04:25 GMT+10:00, Rod Veith <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rod@rb.net.au">rod@rb.net.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Quote Paul</span><i> </i><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">"……</span>
</i><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Last mile infrastructure competition would be a huge bonus for Australian consumers."</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">It is the last place competition makes sense. Should we</span>
<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">also</span> <span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
have 4 providers of railway lines to Sydney? or</span> <span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
3 driveways into your house?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">A national provider, under regulation</span>,<span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> makes the most sense for Australia. Competition is not right cure for all problems.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Rod</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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