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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I understand the commercial reality of
it. It's not that it's moved to TPG DSLAM's thats really the
problem. It's that they cut it over with no notification. We could
not involve the customer test for compliance. Not to mention there
would have been an outage while they moved the jumper that they
did not inform us of. <br>
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In the end of the day it's there network. They can do as they like
with it but a little information flow would have been much better
then a surprise. <br>
<br>
Matt.<br>
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On 4/06/14 10:36 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I am not sure why we are surprised really.
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<div>TPG is going to dismantle everything that made AAPT
AAPT... </div>
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<div>Expect them to pull everything they had intercap off
Nextgen and onto AAPT fibre as soon as contracts run out.
This will put a dent into Nextgens figures I bet.</div>
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<div>The AAPT Wholesale people still seem to think that they
will have jobs within a year... and they have the support of
TPG to continue pushing wholesale services. At least some good
people will be available for others to hire.</div>
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<div>It is my opinion that while TPG has some good products, I
think essentially they are wholesale hostile and will put any
direct commercial opportunity in front of any wholesale
opportunity in every case.</div>
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<div>I've had opportunities that were going to be fulfilled via
wholesale, who were told to stop supporting us as their
commercial side were competing for it directly.</div>
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<div>I don't believe words anymore, I believe actions and base
everything off what people do, not what they say they will
do.. and we've all seen what has happened to Soul and Pipe
since TPG took over. Lots of staff hired for Pipe were told
they were going to be supported, and not long later realised
it was all words with no reality. </div>
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<div>Btw... Good on TPG for pushing their commercial agenda...
from that perspective they are succeeding... I just think it
is wrong to 'fake support' wholesale when they do everything
to undercut it. Just be honest about your intentions TPG is
all I say.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:24 AM,
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Makes you wonder what will happen to the AAPT tails that are
on iiNet DSLAMs?<br>
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Matt, Nathan have you noticed any MTU issues since AAPT have
churned<br>
those tails to TPG?<br>
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On 4 June 2014 09:40, Nathan Brookfield<br>
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> Matt,<br>
><br>
> I'll e-mail you off list, let's just say I do know and
I was not very happy when I noticed.<br>
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> Kindest Regards,<br>
> Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB)<br>
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> Subject: [AusNOG] AAPT / TPG Merge NWB<br>
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> Looks like some of our AAPT NWB services that were
delivered on Telstra have magically been churned to TPG
without any notification. Anyone else notice this ?<br>
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