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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Oh also, something we have used in the past is the Panduit 1 and 2 RU cable management, both closed and open.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The 2RU closed one works fairly well for going between two flat 24 port panels, plenty of room for everything you need to fit though it’s a space waster compared to the angled panels with no horizontal cable management however….<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Ayden Beeson</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Beeson, Ayden<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 27 May 2014 4:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> James.Baird@gwf.com.au; Paul Gear<br><b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net; AusNOG<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Improving rack density with different cable management<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I can’t agree more. We use Panduit angled panels with the side cable management, it is amazing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Even with standard 24 port 1RU panels you can get a LOT more ports into the same space….<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>For really high density installs Panduit do a make a 48 port 1 RU HD minicom panel too though I would have assumed as was said earlier that it would be a real pain to work with….<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Ayden Beeson</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James.Baird@gwf.com.au<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 27 May 2014 4:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> Paul Gear<br><b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net; AusNOG<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Improving rack density with different cable management<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>+1 to Panduit, if you can install 750mm wide racks. Angled patch panels + side mounted vertical cable management. Easily fits 480 ports per rack.</span> <br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/wkadtc8us5sxdql/20140527_155329.jpg">https://www.dropbox.com/s/wkadtc8us5sxdql/20140527_155329.jpg</a></span> <br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td width="40%" valign=top style='width:40.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Paul Gear <<a href="mailto:ausnog@libertysys.com.au">ausnog@libertysys.com.au</a>></span></b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent by: "AusNOG" <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>></span> <o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>05/27/2014 03:36 PM</span> <o:p></o:p></p></td><td width="59%" valign=top style='width:59.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a></span> <o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>cc</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td></tr><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject</span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>[AusNOG] Improving rack density with different cable management</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td><td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><br><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi all,</span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br><br><tt>Most of our sites have fairly simple cable management using traditional </tt><br><tt>cable management like this: </tt><br><tt><a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/nc7bmgs7j85laeq/20140527_145239.jpg">https://www.dropbox.com/s/nc7bmgs7j85laeq/20140527_145239.jpg</a></tt><br><br><tt>This is easy to work with in most cases where we don't have high port </tt><br><tt>counts. However, once you push 48 Cat6 cables into them they can get a </tt><br><tt>bit tight.</tt><br><br><tt>We have some new sites which are coming online that require up to 288 </tt><br><tt>ports per floor, and these will not fit in the single rack provided for </tt><br><tt>the floor if we use traditional cable management, once all the patching, </tt><br><tt>switching, and UPS requirements are taken into account. We will still </tt><br><tt>have 750-800 mm wide racks, so I was hoping to find something that could </tt><br><tt>be mounted at the side of the rack and protrude towards the front, so </tt><br><tt>that we could use all the rack frontage for either patch panels or </tt><br><tt>switch ports. Some larger chassis switches seem to have this sort of </tt><br><tt>thing built in, e.g. </tt><br><tt><a href="http://product-images.www8-hp.com/digmedialib/prodimg/lowres/c03131047.png">http://product-images.www8-hp.com/digmedialib/prodimg/lowres/c03131047.png</a></tt><br><br><tt>Searching Google suggests that there are plenty of options which look OK </tt><br><tt>for low-density deployment, e.g. </tt><br><tt><a href="http://www.fibersavvy.com/store/i/is.aspx?path=/Shared/images/21_Cable%20Management/PP4-3197-1U_04.jpg&lr=t&bw=550&w=550&bh=550&h=550">http://www.fibersavvy.com/store/i/is.aspx?path=/Shared/images/21_Cable%20Management/PP4-3197-1U_04.jpg&lr=t&bw=550&w=550&bh=550&h=550</a> </tt><br><tt>but putting up to 48 Cat6 cables on that would not work, in my opinion. </tt><br><tt>What I was hoping to find is something that would allow cables to be </tt><br><tt>laid in horizontally, more like the L-shaped lower part of our existing </tt><br><tt>Krone cable management, but a little longer and a little wider (say, </tt><br><tt>70-90mm deep and 30mm wide), and possibly with a number of different </tt><br><tt>channels in it to separate different groups of cables.</tt><br><br><tt>Does anyone know of such a system? 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