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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I will bet you a bottle of coke  at the
      next Ausnog that if you check with your dark provider they were
      working on a joint along your run at the time of the outage. We
      get these from time to time. link-flap usually allays is a result
      of work at the joints.  When they squash the head end back into
      the pit after the work the max bend radius can be exceeded. When
      that happens there there's refraction and loss.  We have one
      customer where the joint out the front of his building was worked
      on every 2 weeks and we got that result.   In the end we had to
      move carrier. <br>
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      It happens the question is will your carrier be honest about it. <br>
      <br>
      Matt.<br>
      <br>
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      <br>
      On 15/05/14 8:47 AM, McDonald Richards wrote:<br>
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      <div>Normally it's a failing optic at one end. It will probably
        happen again. Setup the err-disable auto recovery feature so
        that it comes back after a minute.</div>
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      <div>Macca<br>
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        On 15 May 2014, at 8:45 am, "Skeeve Stevens" <<a
          moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>>
        wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">Hey Nathan,
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            <div>Logs are minimal.</div>
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            <div>
              <div>May 14 16:58:25.672 AEST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line
                protocol on Interface TenGigabitEthernet3/1/2, changed
                state to down</div>
              <div>May 14 16:58:30.470 AEST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line
                protocol on Interface TenGigabitEthernet3/1/2, changed
                state to up</div>
              <div>May 14 17:00:22.888 AEST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line
                protocol on Interface TenGigabitEthernet3/1/2, changed
                state to down</div>
              <div>May 14 17:00:23.886 AEST: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface
                TenGigabitEthernet3/1/2, changed state to down</div>
              <div>May 14 17:00:25.194 AEST: %PM-4-ERR_DISABLE:
                link-flap error detected on Te3/1/2, putting Te3/1/2 in
                err-disable state (RKN03L06SWCORE02-3)</div>
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            <div>Seems to be nothing else on either side... which is why
              I am asking... very odd for Dark Fibre.</div>
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          <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
            <div>
              <div dir="ltr">
                <div><br>
                  ...Skeeve</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve
                      Stevens - </b><span
                      style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego
                      Networks Pty Ltd</span></div>
                  <div>
                    <div><span
                        style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"><a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com"
                          target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/"
                          target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span><font>
                        <p
                          style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px">Phone:
                          1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; <a
                            moz-do-not-send="true">skype://skeeve</a></p>
                        <p
                          style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks"
                            target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a> ; <a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve"
                            target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> </p>
                        <p
                          style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://twitter.com/theispguy"
                            target="_blank">twitter.com/theispguy</a><span
                            style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> ; blog: </span><a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://www.theispguy.com/"
                            target="_blank">www.theispguy.com</a><br>
                        </p>
                        <p
                          style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><img
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            src="http://eintellegonetworks.com/logos/ein09.png"><br>
                        </p>
                        <p style="margin:0px"><span
style="color:rgb(127,0,127);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:13px">The
                            Experts Who The Experts Call</span></p>
                      </font></div>
                    <div
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(127,0,127)"><span
                        style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">Juniper
                        - Cisco </span><span
                        style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">-
                        Cloud</span><span
                        style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px"> </span><span
                        style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">-
                        Consulting</span><span
                        style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px"> </span><span
                        style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- IPv4
                        Brokering</span></div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 7:57 AM,
              Nathan Brookfield <span dir="ltr">
                <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au"
                  target="_blank">Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                <div dir="auto">
                  <div>Skeeve,</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>There could be a handful of reasons for this such
                    as link flapping, broadcast storm if storm control
                    is enabled on the Cisco end etc.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>This is also sent to SYSLOG or shown in the local
                    log if the buffer hasn't filled up as yet.<br>
                    <br>
                    <div>Kindest Regards,</div>
                    Nathan Brookfield
                    <div><br>
                      <div>Chief Executive Officer</div>
                      <div><span style="font-size:13pt">Simtronic
                          Technologies Pty Ltd</span></div>
                      <div><span style="font-size:13pt"><br>
                        </span></div>
                      <div>Web: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://simtronic.com.au" target="_blank">http://simtronic.com.au</a></div>
                      <div>Phone: 1300 592 330</div>
                      <div>Fax: (02) 4749 4950</div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div><br>
                    On 15 May 2014, at 7:39, "Skeeve Stevens" <<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com"
                      target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>>
                    wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Hey all,
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                      <div>Just wondering if anyone might know what some
                        triggers would be to cause a dark fibre link to
                        go into Error-Disable.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>It was easy to shut; no shut to bring it back
                        online, but it was disturbing nonetheless. </div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>One end is Cisco and the other Juniper using
                        ER optics - not sure if that makes a difference
                        or not.<br clear="all">
                        <div>
                          <div dir="ltr">
                            <div><br>
                              ...Skeeve</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div><b
                                  style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve
                                  Stevens - </b><span
                                  style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego
                                  Networks Pty Ltd</span></div>
                              <div>
                                <div><span
                                    style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"><a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com"
                                      target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/"
                                      target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span><font>
                                    <p
                                      style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px">Phone:
                                      1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753
                                      383 ; <a moz-do-not-send="true">skype://skeeve</a></p>
                                    <p
                                      style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks"
                                        target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a> ; <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve"
                                        target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> </p>
                                    <p
                                      style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://twitter.com/theispguy"
                                        target="_blank">twitter.com/theispguy</a><span
                                        style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> ;
                                        blog: </span><a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://www.theispguy.com/"
                                        target="_blank">www.theispguy.com</a><br>
                                    </p>
                                    <p
                                      style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><img
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        src="http://eintellegonetworks.com/logos/ein09.png"><br>
                                    </p>
                                    <p style="margin:0px"><span
style="color:rgb(127,0,127);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:13px">The
                                        Experts Who The Experts Call</span></p>
                                  </font></div>
                                <div
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(127,0,127)"><span
style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">Juniper - Cisco </span><span
                                    style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">-
                                    Cloud</span><span
                                    style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px"> </span><span
style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- Consulting</span><span
                                    style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px"> </span><span
style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- IPv4 Brokering</span></div>
                              </div>
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