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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoPlainText>Upon talking with AAPT and a few others the networks will converge sooner or later ... it's just a matter of time.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Will be interesting to see how it all washes out in the end....<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Kindest Regards <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>James Braunegg<br></span></b><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>P:</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> 1300 769 972 | <b>M:</b> 0488 997 207 | <b>D:</b> (03) 9751 7616</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>E:</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:james.braunegg@micron21.com"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>james.braunegg@micron21.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> | <b>ABN:</b> 12 109 977 666 <br><b>W:</b> </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.micron21.com/ip-transit"><span style='color:black'>www.micron21.com/ip-transit</span></a></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <b>T:</b> @micron21<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br><img border=0 width=250 height=39 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CF6A9F.36DE0CE0" alt="Description: Description: Description: Description: M21.jpg"><br></span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>This message is intended for the addressee named above. 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If you have received this message in error please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer.</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<br>From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Dylan Chidgey<br>Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 8:43 AM<br>To: 'Alex Samad - Yieldbroker'; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] BGP AS<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Alex,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>In my experience the three networks are still somewhat separate from each other.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Dylan.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</span></a>] On Behalf Of Alex Samad - Yieldbroker<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2014 6:51 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: [AusNOG] BGP AS<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Wondering how other people are dealing with Pipe / TPG / AAPT AS's<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Do you treat them as 1 company, the presumption being that the peering between them is a lot better or because they haven't merged their AS, treat them as 3 separate AS's<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>So if my understanding is correct if I peer with Pipe, AAPT clients see me as 3 AS's away, but if the peering is better AAPT -> Pipe -> ME than say XXX<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-> ME.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>But this is all based on the assumption that PIPE -> AAPT & Pipe -> TPG is better ??<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Alex<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>AusNOG mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>AusNOG mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>