<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>+1</div><div><br></div><div>At least in 3G deployments the GGSN component would gobble the PPP session and do a 1:1 PPP setup down the provider L2TP (ie. not a real L2TP multi hop) then bridge by passing seemingly broken IPv4 gateway details to the CPE side and presumably packet sniff it's way to the other tunnel.</div><div><br></div><div>The justification at the time was because of cell breathing needing to be sustainable and negotiated on SGSN side. The side affect was that the GGSN had to get involved in IP termination and therefore IPv6 was this new fangled thing radio guys (on SGSN/RNC side) wouldn't trust ultimately leading to network side deciding in a lot of cases 'ok 10/8 it is!'</div><div><br></div><div>Maybe things have changed and it's vendor specific (this was Nokia comms equipment) buuuttt I doubt it since radio guys were specing 3G networks with some crazy low per user kbit requirement (presumably it's only barely more than 100kbit now).</div><div><br></div><div>Also fwiw I think Telstra's private networking default may actually be borne out of bill shock avoidance due to unscrupulous traffic spamming public net blocks and being classed as 'download' to the phone/dongle/CPE.</div><div><br>Just my 2c,</div><div><br></div><div>Stu</div><div><br>On 1 May 2014, at 7:10 pm, Michael Wheeler <<a href="mailto:michael@michael-wheeler.org">michael@michael-wheeler.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">By memory it was because of roaming issues if you move from 4g to 3g suddenly your ipv6 goes missing and all your connections drop. </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 01/05/2014 7:07 pm, "Mark Newton" <<a href="mailto:newton@atdot.dotat.org">newton@atdot.dotat.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto"><div>I don't know why they don't. On an LTE network it should be as simple as IPv4.</div><div><br></div><div> - mark</div><div><br>On 1 May 2014, at 18:10, Michael Wheeler <<a href="mailto:michael@michael-wheeler.org" target="_blank">michael@michael-wheeler.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I understand that there is short demand for IP addresses and providing them on every mobile would very quickly exhaust the pool, however please Telstra make an effort to put IPv6 onto 4G.....</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 May 2014 18:09, Michael Wheeler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael@michael-wheeler.org" target="_blank">michael@michael-wheeler.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I understand that there is short demand for IP addresses and providing them on every mobile would very quickly exhaust the pool, however please Telstra make an effort to put IPv6 onto 4G.....</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 May 2014 18:04, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:adamn@eyemedia.com.au" target="_blank">adamn@eyemedia.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<font face="sans-serif">Who cares about a static IP, how about
a decent usage plan, YAY!!!! I can get 30mbit down 10mbit but can't actually
DO anything with it.<br>
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<br><font face="sans-serif">I'd just about give my right "your
know what" for a decent usage plan at a decent price.</font>
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<br><font face="sans-serif">I'd happily pay $150 a month for 50-60GB
(I'd LOVE a 120GB) plan let along $150 only giving me 25GB :(, takes me
back to the good'ole 56k modem plans.</font>
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<br><font face="Calibri">Hey Guys</font>
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<br><font face="Calibri">Can you get Static Live IP’s on Telstra
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<br><font face="Calibri">I know you can get Live IP’s. But can
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