<div dir="ltr">Hey Chris,<div><br></div><div>I wasn't asked 'when' they were doing it, but more 'why' they aren't doing it from day dot on the speeds they've chosen, which from what I understand, the GPON being rolled out is fully capable of.</div>

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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Chris Gibbs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Chris.Gibbs@gosford.nsw.gov.au" target="_blank">Chris.Gibbs@gosford.nsw.gov.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">







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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi Skeeve,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Depends if you can wait. NBN Co roadmap lists symmetrical services under Enterprise Ethernet Services. However, unfortunately not
 until 2016+.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/initial-roadmap.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/initial-roadmap.pdf</a> (provides more details but the one above has updated dates.<u></u><u></u></span></p>


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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">given that NBN Co didn’t release the latest roadmap release, it will be interesting to see if this product sticks around.<u></u><u></u></span></p>


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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 7 April 2014 8:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] Discussion point: Why aren't the NBNCo tails symmetric in speed?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hey all,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But I was wondering the other day 'Why aren't NBNCo tails sold as symmetric speeds?'<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Considering:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- The transit the RSP buys is symmetric (nearly always)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- The network core of the RSP is symmetric<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- The handoff to either NBNCo or an aggregator (and then NBNCo) is pretty much always symmetric<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- The PoI's core is symmetric<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- The fibre to the home is symmetric capable<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- The NTU is just ethernet - symmetric<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Anything they plug into the NTU is symmetrical - ethernet<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Google Fibre in the US is 1G/1G in speeds... <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So... unless I am missing something obvious (always possible)... Why are NBNCo tails not sold as symmetrical speeds?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am not sure why there is this artificial design in these products to make them asymmetric.  There doesn't seem to be any gain by doing this that I can think of.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Gone are the days of DSL like speeds and unbalanced design... even ATM was symmetrical.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Keen for peoples opinions.<br clear="all">
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...Skeeve<u></u><u></u></p>
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