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<span style="font-size: 12px; ">Actually, I just noticed that a symmetrical 10, 20, 40 and 100Mbps AVC on Fibre is actually listed as a planned TC3 service in the latest roadmap. Currently, it's planned for H2-2015.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 12px; "><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 12px; ">If TC3 AVC pricing doesn't change from the initial Dec 2011 pricing overview (</span><a href="http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/product-and-pricing-overview-dec-11.pdf">http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/product-and-pricing-overview-dec-11.pdf</a>) <span style="font-size: 12px; ">- they will be as follows:</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 12px;"><br></span></div><div><ul><li><span style="font-size: 12px;">10Mbps - $48.00</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 12px;">20Mbps - $96.00</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 12px;">40Mbps - $192.00</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 12px;">100Mbps - $480.00</span></li></ul></div>
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<p style="color: #A0A0A8;">On Wednesday, 9 April 2014 at 8:34 PM, Chris Gibbs wrote:</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Depends if you can wait. NBN Co roadmap lists symmetrical services under Enterprise Ethernet Services. However, unfortunately not
until 2016+.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a href="http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/initial-roadmap.pdf">http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/initial-roadmap.pdf</a> (provides more details but the one above has updated dates.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">given that NBN Co didn’t release the latest roadmap release, it will be interesting to see if this product sticks around.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 7 April 2014 8:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] Discussion point: Why aren't the NBNCo tails symmetric in speed?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hey all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I am sure this will spurn a healthy discussion... perhaps with conflicting views...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">But I was wondering the other day 'Why aren't NBNCo tails sold as symmetric speeds?'<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Considering:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">- The transit the RSP buys is symmetric (nearly always)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">- The network core of the RSP is symmetric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">- The handoff to either NBNCo or an aggregator (and then NBNCo) is pretty much always symmetric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">- The PoI's core is symmetric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">- The fibre to the home is symmetric capable<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">- The NTU is just ethernet - symmetric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">- Anything they plug into the NTU is symmetrical - ethernet<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Google Fibre in the US is 1G/1G in speeds... <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">So... unless I am missing something obvious (always possible)... Why are NBNCo tails not sold as symmetrical speeds?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I am not sure why there is this artificial design in these products to make them asymmetric. There doesn't seem to be any gain by doing this that I can think of.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Gone are the days of DSL like speeds and unbalanced design... even ATM was symmetrical.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Keen for peoples opinions.<br clear="all">
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