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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Skeeve,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Depends if you can wait. NBN Co roadmap lists symmetrical services under Enterprise Ethernet Services. However, unfortunately not
until 2016+.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">http://www.nbnco.com.au/industry/service-providers/product-components/product-roadmap.html (2016+)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/initial-roadmap.pdf (provides more details but the one above has updated dates.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">given that NBN Co didn’t release the latest roadmap release, it will be interesting to see if this product sticks around.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 7 April 2014 8:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ausnog@ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] Discussion point: Why aren't the NBNCo tails symmetric in speed?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hey all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am sure this will spurn a healthy discussion... perhaps with conflicting views...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But I was wondering the other day 'Why aren't NBNCo tails sold as symmetric speeds?'<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Considering:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- The transit the RSP buys is symmetric (nearly always)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- The network core of the RSP is symmetric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- The handoff to either NBNCo or an aggregator (and then NBNCo) is pretty much always symmetric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- The PoI's core is symmetric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- The fibre to the home is symmetric capable<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- The NTU is just ethernet - symmetric<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Anything they plug into the NTU is symmetrical - ethernet<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Google Fibre in the US is 1G/1G in speeds... <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So... unless I am missing something obvious (always possible)... Why are NBNCo tails not sold as symmetrical speeds?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am not sure why there is this artificial design in these products to make them asymmetric. There doesn't seem to be any gain by doing this that I can think of.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Gone are the days of DSL like speeds and unbalanced design... even ATM was symmetrical.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Keen for peoples opinions.<br clear="all">
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...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></p>
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