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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Just let me re iterate so I can make sure I understanding (actually sounds interesting).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I buy a Dell S4810 switch (or is it a router ?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I load up
</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cumulus, which gives me linux on this device with all the native drivers etc etc ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Then I just configure up like a linux box ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 10 March 2014 2:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tony; Alex Samad - Yieldbroker; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [AusNOG] RouterBoard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Heya,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We have been working with Cumulus for 8 months now and their team is great.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We are deploying their 40/10/1 Gig solutions in our datacenters.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Performance is good as the Broadcom Trident Plus & Trident 2 switches are very powerful for the price.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Their architecture is great as it lets us manage it just like any other Linux server in our pool, just with Hardware acceleration and offload.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We work closely with the team, so feel free to ping me if you have any questions.
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alex Samad - Yieldbroker; <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] RouterBoard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">A wise person I know pointed this out to me recently:<br>
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</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://cumulusnetworks.com/product/overview/"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">http://cumulusnetworks.com/product/overview/</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
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It is only the software though, you then buy your own "bare metal" switch hardare to run it on (that has the ports that you require):<br>
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</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="http://cumulusnetworks.com/support/linux-hardware-compatibility-list/"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">http://cumulusnetworks.com/support/linux-hardware-compatibility-list/</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
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A Dell Force10 (S4810) with 48 x 10G & 4 x 40G is $10k<br>
Quanta with same port spec is $8800<br>
Accton AS5600-52X - $6000<br>
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All prices are just ones that I found using google. No idea how relevant they are to what you might actually be able to get the hardware you require for when you ask someone for a quote.<br>
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I don't know how the cost or performance works out, so please report back to the list if you find any more details or evaluate them :)<br>
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Tony.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black"> Alex Samad -
Yieldbroker <</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">><br>
<b>To:</b> "</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">"
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 10 March 2014 11:34 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] RouterBoard</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">My main aim of this was to find out if there is another product similar to these routerboards, don’t care if the cli is different, more interested in spec
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"> Alex Samad - Yieldbroker
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 10 March 2014 12:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Damian Guppy'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [AusNOG] RouterBoard</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">There is no ccr1036 on the product page but there is this variant</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 10 March 2014 12:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alex Samad - Yieldbroker<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] RouterBoard</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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So I have tested routerOS ... in VM and also bought the ccr1036.<br>
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I'm not 100% happy with the ccr1036. Basically can't push 1 tcp stream past 1Gb/s I can get 8-9Gb/s with multiple streams. I can get UDP up to 9.8Gb/s<br>
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I like routerOS interface (have to admit I like the vyatta better from what I saw).<br>
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But now I need to find something similar to these devices around the same price and around the same performance, I would like to push it all to a VM but Brocade want my 1st and 2nd child ...<br>
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So routerOS support is nowhere close to Cisco and rightly so for the price, so I have some hesitancy in rolling these things out, especially if they are going into the core.<br>
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So are there any suggestions from the list ?<br>
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