<div dir="ltr">Mark,<div><br></div><div>I do not agree at all with that suggestion. DNS is integral to Service Provider operations and is fully on-topic for AusNOG.</div><div><br></div><div>If you, and anyone else aren't happy with the content on AusNOG, I suggest you unsubscribe.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I also suggest to all the people whinging about off-topic content, that they let the moderators handle it, and if you REALLY are upset about something, email them about your concerns and leave the crap off the list.</div>
<div><br></div><div>In my opinion, the complaints about off-topic content, are the most off-topic content on this list at the moment.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br>...Skeeve</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Mark ZZZ Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au" target="_blank">markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Wolfgang Nagele <<a href="mailto:wolfgang.nagele@ausregistry.com.au" target="_blank">wolfgang.nagele@ausregistry.com.au</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Mark Foster <<a href="mailto:blakjak@blakjak.net" target="_blank">blakjak@blakjak.net</a>>; "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 12 February 2014 6:33 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AusNOG] Speaking of DNS...<br> </font> </div> <div><br><div><div>
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<div>On 2/12/14, 6:23 PM, "Mark Foster" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:blakjak@blakjak.net" target="_blank">blakjak@blakjak.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>... what's the done method of troubleshooting DNS problems that only </div>
<div>affect certain network(s), now that open resolvers are (hopefully) a </div>
<div>thing of the past?</div>
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<div>I have semi-regularly struggled with troubleshooting email delivery </div>
<div>problems (for example), due to an inability to see what ISP X sees as my </div>
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<div>Onceuponatime I could just query their DNS servers myself. Now it seems </div>
<div>I either have to hope that their helpdesk understand what an MX record </div>
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<div>network to tinker with...</div>
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<div>I didn't realise that DNS was something that was a candidate for a </div>
<div>network of 'looking-glass' systems, but perhaps it is... Need a nice, </div>
<div>rate-limited, hard-to-abuse web-based DNS lookup tool to become commonly </div>
<div>available, perhaps?</div>
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<div>Cheers</div>
<div>Mark.</div>
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