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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Agreed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Damian Guppy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 12 February 2014 8:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mark ZZZ Smith<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Move over to AusSAG.net, SAGE-AU or Whirlpool please (Re: Speaking of DNS...)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Um, I really don't think you can make a blanket statement like that with regards to DNS. Sure some DNS topics are off topic - eg "how do i configure my BIND" but others are on topic such as "this domain / series of domains are not resolving
correctly for xxx isp/everyone, please confirm / pass on message to yyy to investigate/resolve"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">--Damian<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Mark ZZZ Smith <<a href="mailto:markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au" target="_blank">markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Wolfgang Nagele <<a href="mailto:wolfgang.nagele@ausregistry.com.au" target="_blank">wolfgang.nagele@ausregistry.com.au</a>><br>
<b>To:</b> Mark Foster <<a href="mailto:blakjak@blakjak.net" target="_blank">blakjak@blakjak.net</a>>; "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 12 February 2014 6:33 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Speaking of DNS...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">RIPE Atlas (<a href="http://atlas.ripe.net" target="_blank">http://atlas.ripe.net</a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">NLNOG RING (<a href="http://ring.nlnog.net" target="_blank">http://ring.nlnog.net</a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2/12/14, 6:23 PM, "Mark Foster" <<a href="mailto:blakjak@blakjak.net" target="_blank">blakjak@blakjak.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">... what's the done method of troubleshooting DNS problems that only
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<p class="MsoNormal">affect certain network(s), now that open resolvers are (hopefully) a
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<p class="MsoNormal">thing of the past?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have semi-regularly struggled with troubleshooting email delivery
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<p class="MsoNormal">problems (for example), due to an inability to see what ISP X sees as my
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<p class="MsoNormal">Onceuponatime I could just query their DNS servers myself. Now it seems
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<p class="MsoNormal">I either have to hope that their helpdesk understand what an MX record
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<p class="MsoNormal">actually is, or try to find a shell account on a machine within their
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<p class="MsoNormal">network to tinker with...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I didn't realise that DNS was something that was a candidate for a
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<p class="MsoNormal">network of 'looking-glass' systems, but perhaps it is... Need a nice,
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<p class="MsoNormal">rate-limited, hard-to-abuse web-based DNS lookup tool to become commonly
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<p class="MsoNormal">available, perhaps?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mark.<o:p></o:p></p>
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