<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">As it was tought to me, it doesn’t matter what the purpose of the connection is - if you are connecting to fixed cabling (that is, any cable which is fixed in place in *any* way - legally, a patch cable passed through a wall, or passed through conduit or aussieduct becomes fixed cabling.), the device being connected must be Austel Approved (these days they call it the A-Tick, and they’ve just introduced the ‘RCM’ (<a href="http://www.acma.gov.au/Industry/Suppliers/Supplier-resources/Supplier-overview/compliance-marks">http://www.acma.gov.au/Industry/Suppliers/Supplier-resources/Supplier-overview/compliance-marks</a>).. <div><br></div><div>The biggest problem is the definition of where it starts and ends is too open ended.. Back when i was doing my bridging from Electrical to get my comms cabling license, I asked my lecturer where it should stop.. Thinking specifically of the case of my Ham radio APRS iGate sitting at work, where we went DDS -> router -> switch -> server -> modem -> radio -> antenna cabling -> antenna. The lecturer’s take on it was that as it was all going over the PSTN, then ALL cabling needed to be done by a licensed cabler. </div><div><br></div><div>I emailed the ACMA compliance bureau to ask about it, and got a phone call back, with the fellow explaining that he didn’t want to put the response in writing, as going by the legislation, it would require a licensed cabler, but in practice, they wouldn’t expect the antenna cabling, as they considered the comms cabling stopped at the point of the server.</div><div><br></div><div>I guess that’s the main point - unless you screw up, you’re safe.. but if you should happen to screw up and take out something on the PSTN, then if your gear doesn’t have the A-tick, you’re in the crapper..</div><div><br></div><div>Though I haven’t been overly active in going on 10 years now, so it’s all quite likely (hopefully!) changed :)</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>DG<br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 2 Feb 2014, at 12:33 pm, Andrew Cox <<a href="mailto:andrew.cox@bigair.net.au">andrew.cox@bigair.net.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">As someone who won't be using it for cabling certification/repair but simply fault finding/layer 2 testing does that still apply?<br><br><div>I might tag a supplier I know and see if they can tell me any better. The bluetooth part I imagine has to comply with some standard, but presumably they're using an off the shelf module that would already be approved (I'll see what more I can find out and get back to you all). I'll also hit up ACMA directly for some info. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers,<br>Andrew</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 February 2014 11:29, Damien Gardner Jnr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net" target="_blank">rendrag@rendrag.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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> Austel hasn't been around for about 10 years and the ACMA typically don't require test equipment to be approved. Is your multi meter approved ? Your F-set ? TDR?<br>
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</div>Yes, they are! Granted, they’re all more than 10 years old though..<br>
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> It's not for permanent connection to the PSTN in any case.<br>
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</div>I was of the understanding that anything we connect to the PSTN must be approved, whether it’s temporary or permanent? I’m happy to be proven wrong though? Would make life a lot easier!<br>
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