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--></style></head><body bgcolor="white" lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext">I was provided a copy of this article from </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext;background:white">IBM’s Global Technology Services (see link below), which again outlines the link between acoustic noise and HDD damage:</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext"><a href="http://www.datacenterjournal.com/it/inert-gas-data-center-fire-protection-and-hard-disk-drive-damage/">http://www.datacenterjournal.com/it/inert-gas-data-center-fire-protection-and-hard-disk-drive-damage/</a></span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Kind Regards</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Tony de Francesco<br>Technical Director</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext">P.U.E. Pty Ltd</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> </span></p>
<div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:windowtext"> AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joseph Goldman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 14 January 2014 8:45 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Global switch Level 4 Hard disk's</span></p></div></div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I'm guessing here - but I would assume the use of this kind of gas suppression system is a selling point for Global Switch to the point of it isn't harmful to your electronics - saving your equipment if it is not in the direct path of the fire.<br>
<br>Given that 'selling point' has failed, I would imagine it'd come under Global Switches liability?<br><br>This again assuming that GS use this as a selling point over other DC's (such as Equinix ) that dump the foam and ruin everyone's hardware.<span style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">On 14/01/14 08:41, Matt Perkins wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">A good question. I would think it would be covered under equipment breakdown policy. As there was no fire. I would think most people would not be insured for this sort of thing.  It's a good question for your broker. <br>
<br>Matt<br><br><br>On 14/01/14 6:41 AM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Question </span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Who pays for this ? If you were in the suite and lost 20-40 drives, would insurance cover it and if not do you have any claim on GS if it was done in error. Or is it a case of you know the risks, buyer beware. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Curious </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Alex</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James Braunegg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 13 January 2014 10:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> John Edwards; <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Global switch Level 4 Hard disk's</span></p>
</div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Dear All</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">I’d love to know if any Server or Storage Vendors have any meantime to failure reports based on exposure to different fire suppression systems, very interesting Read / Topic !!!</span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Kindest Regards</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">James Braunegg<br>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">-----Original Message-----<br>From: AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of John Edwards<br>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 10:06 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Global switch Level 4 Hard disk's</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">On 13 Jan 2014, at 2:00 pm, Brad Gould <<a href="mailto:bradley@internode.com.au">bradley@internode.com.au</a>> wrote:</span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">> Sudden pressure increase or temperature drop with a gas dump?</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">> </span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">I’m with Brad,</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Gas expansion is an endothermic process. </span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">The temperature will drop significantly - more than you could effect with a block of ice. In a data centre, the air temp will be back to normal in one cycle, so humans may not notice the difference.</span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Disks are spinning at 10K rpm, operating at 55 degrees. It’s not surprising that they would fail with a sudden drop in temperature. 3.5” SATA drives are going to be hit harder than 2.5” SAS drives, simply because they are bigger and will contract further.</span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Pressure increase on a gas drop will be negligible, and most hard drives are effectively sealed anyway.</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText">
<span lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Someone hit a hot hard drive performing a transfer with a CO2 fire extinguisher, and let us know the result :)</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">John</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">_______________________________________________</span></p><p class="MsoPlainText">
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