<div dir="ltr"><div><div>90% of the wholesale network aggregators I know of rely heavily on AAPT or TPG on-net tails because they are dirt cheap.<br></div><br></div><div>I hope Telstra Wholesale and Optus Wholesale level the playing field or reseller margin erosion here we come......<br>
</div><div><br></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:58 PM, Joshua D'Alton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joshua@railgun.com.au" target="_blank">joshua@railgun.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Which strategy? securepay are a end-user provider not just a middleman.</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:40 PM, John Lindsay <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnslindsay@mac.com" target="_blank">johnslindsay@mac.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>TPG aren't interested in your strategy. They're already in the end-game where you are not a player. Find business partners who always act in your interest and work with them. Failing that, force them to via contracts.<span><font color="#888888"><br>

<br><div>John Lindsay</div></font></span></div><div><div><div><br>On 14 Jan 2014, at 10:35 pm, Chris Ricks <<a href="mailto:chris.ricks@securepay.com.au" target="_blank">chris.ricks@securepay.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>

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    <div>From my company's persepctive, carrier
      diversity is a critical part of network design (unless there
      simply isn't a means of achieving said diversity).<br>
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      Policies such as the one TPG *appear* to be pushing (first Vocus
      and now Megaport) would be a dealbreaker for us, and I know I'm
      not alone in that thinking.<br>
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      - Chris<br>
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      On 14/01/2014 8:59 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Of course they are going to launch a competing
        product, but they will have fun delivering it to any DC they
        don't own.
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        <div>If they push the issue with Megaport, then other DC's will
          probably do the same right back at them... I think it is an
          extremely dumb move on their behalf.</div>
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          Palmer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mpalmer@hezmatt.org" target="_blank">mpalmer@hezmatt.org</a>></span>
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            On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 05:26:31AM +0000, Alex Samad -
            Yieldbroker wrote:<br>
            > Devil's advocate, what if they are not looking to win,
            but to delay ..<br>
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            I suppose they could have a competing product to Megaport in
            the works, but<br>
            if so, they've done themselves out of a few customers
            through their actions<br>
            so far.  Not a great way to start a product launch...<br>
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            - Matt<br>
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