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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">You will probably find that the
      argument is made from TPG that as no *humans* "occupy" that space
      it is not occupied any more than you "occupy" your post office
      box.<br>
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      Not saying i agree, but that would likely be the crux of their
      argument.<br>
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      I hope that the TIO side with megaport as the intent of the act is
      to provide customers with ready access to telecoms in the face of
      opposing building owners.<br>
      The customers not living/working there being beside the point.<br>
      <br>
      Has anybody used this part of the act to get stuff run to
      equipment?<br>
      IE mobile phone antenna, or weather station or whatever?<br>
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      On 14/01/14 14:30, John Lindsay wrote:<br>
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      <div>I hope TPG don't need access to any more buildings for the
        FTTB builds. <br>
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        <div>John Lindsay</div>
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        On 14 Jan 2014, at 2:28 pm, David Bomba <<a
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        wrote:<br>
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              <div>TPG have already succeeded in gaining access to
                locations using this part of the act.<br>
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              TPG v Megaport is merely commercial activism to disrupt a
              competitors activities. <br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On 14 January 2014 14:23, John
              Lindsay <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:johnslindsay@mac.com" target="_blank">johnslindsay@mac.com</a>></span>
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                Imagine how good it will be for TPG's FTTB strategy if
                they win this?<br>
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                Every building owner in Australia will say "sod off"
                when they try to gain access.<br>
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                You win and you lose.<br>
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                    John Lindsay<br>
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                    > On 14 Jan 2014, at 2:18 pm, Luke Iggleden <<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:luke%2Bausnog@sisgroup.com.au">luke+ausnog@sisgroup.com.au</a>>
                    wrote:<br>
                    ><br>
                    > My point was its a carrier to carrier dispute,
                    I would have thought the TIO would be powerless for
                    this. Time will tell.<br>
                    ><br>
                    > What's more interesting is what will pan out as
                    a result of this and possibly set a precedent. Are
                    co-located clients, who lease a space from a
                    datacenter "occupiers" or not.<br>
                    ><br>
                    > By my definition of occupied they would be, but
                    who knows, I'm not from legal counsel. Has this been
                    tested in the past? @bev?<br>
                    ><br>
                    ><br>
                    >> On 14/01/2014 2:11 pm, Patrick Cole wrote:<br>
                    >> Luke,<br>
                    >><br>
                    >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.tio.com.au/about-us/policies-and-procedures/objections-to-land-access-activity"
                      target="_blank">http://www.tio.com.au/about-us/policies-and-procedures/objections-to-land-access-activity</a><br>
                    >><br>
                    >> The TIO seems to be the place to go with
                    objections to land access notices<br>
                    >> that cannot be resolved by other means.<br>
                    >><br>
                    >> Pat<br>
                    >><br>
                    >> Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 01:07:15PM +1100, Luke
                    Iggleden wrote:<br>
                    >><br>
                    >>> Not sure what the TIO will do with
                    this.<br>
                    >>><br>
                    >>> Numerous items listed in their
                    constitution seem to exclude them from<br>
                    >>> looking into this:<br>
                    >>><br>
                    >>> 4.3 The functions of the TIO do not
                    extend to complaints relating to:<br>
                    >>><br>
                    >>> (i)<br>
                    >>> matters which may involve anti
                    competitive behaviour or restrictive<br>
                    >>> practices potentially in breach of the
                    Trade Practices Act 1974;<br>
                    >>> (j)<br>
                    >>> matters which are specifically under
                    consideration by the Australian<br>
                    >>> Communications and Media Authority, the
                    Australian Competition and<br>
                    >>> Consumer Commission or any court or
                    tribunal, or which have been<br>
                    >>> considered by any of those bodies
                    previously;<br>
                    >>> (k)<br>
                    >>> the content of a content service (as
                    defined in The Telecommunications<br>
                    >>> Act 1997); and<br>
                    >>> (l)<br>
                    >>> an alleged breach of an industry code
                    or industry standard by a member<br>
                    >>> of the Telecommunications Industry
                    Ombudsman Limited, where the<br>
                    >>> complaint is made by a member of the
                    Telecommunications Industry<br>
                    >>> Ombudsman Limited or another industry
                    participant<br>
                    >>><br>
                    >>> Doesn't handle inter-member disputes,
                    doubt megaport is obliged to be a<br>
                    >>> member of the TIO which may exclude
                    them in l.<br>
                    >>><br>
                    >>><br>
                    >>>> On 14/01/2014 12:40 pm, Bevan
                    Slattery wrote:<br>
                    >>>> Hi All,<br>
                    >>>><br>
                    >>>> As the subject line says?<br>
                    >>>><br>
                    >>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.megaport.com/blog/entry/megaport-temporarily-suspends-new-megaport-orders-from-pipe-networks-datacentres-1.html"
                      target="_blank">http://www.megaport.com/blog/entry/megaport-temporarily-suspends-new-megaport-orders-from-pipe-networks-datacentres-1.html</a><br>
                    >>>><br>
                    >>>> Email Friendly<br>
                    >>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://bit.ly/1hkC82e" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/1hkC82e</a><br>
                    >>>><br>
                    >>>> Cheers<br>
                    >>>><br>
                    >>>> [b]<br>
                    >>>><br>
                    >>>><br>
                    >>>><br>
                    >>>>
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