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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">You will probably find that the
argument is made from TPG that as no *humans* "occupy" that space
it is not occupied any more than you "occupy" your post office
box.<br>
<br>
Not saying i agree, but that would likely be the crux of their
argument.<br>
<br>
I hope that the TIO side with megaport as the intent of the act is
to provide customers with ready access to telecoms in the face of
opposing building owners.<br>
The customers not living/working there being beside the point.<br>
<br>
Has anybody used this part of the act to get stuff run to
equipment?<br>
IE mobile phone antenna, or weather station or whatever?<br>
<br>
<br>
On 14/01/14 14:30, John Lindsay wrote:<br>
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<div>I hope TPG don't need access to any more buildings for the
FTTB builds. <br>
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<div>John Lindsay</div>
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On 14 Jan 2014, at 2:28 pm, David Bomba <<a
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<div>TPG have already succeeded in gaining access to
locations using this part of the act.<br>
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TPG v Megaport is merely commercial activism to disrupt a
competitors activities. <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 14 January 2014 14:23, John
Lindsay <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Imagine how good it will be for TPG's FTTB strategy if
they win this?<br>
<br>
Every building owner in Australia will say "sod off"
when they try to gain access.<br>
<br>
You win and you lose.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
John Lindsay<br>
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> On 14 Jan 2014, at 2:18 pm, Luke Iggleden <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:luke%2Bausnog@sisgroup.com.au">luke+ausnog@sisgroup.com.au</a>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> My point was its a carrier to carrier dispute,
I would have thought the TIO would be powerless for
this. Time will tell.<br>
><br>
> What's more interesting is what will pan out as
a result of this and possibly set a precedent. Are
co-located clients, who lease a space from a
datacenter "occupiers" or not.<br>
><br>
> By my definition of occupied they would be, but
who knows, I'm not from legal counsel. Has this been
tested in the past? @bev?<br>
><br>
><br>
>> On 14/01/2014 2:11 pm, Patrick Cole wrote:<br>
>> Luke,<br>
>><br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.tio.com.au/about-us/policies-and-procedures/objections-to-land-access-activity"
target="_blank">http://www.tio.com.au/about-us/policies-and-procedures/objections-to-land-access-activity</a><br>
>><br>
>> The TIO seems to be the place to go with
objections to land access notices<br>
>> that cannot be resolved by other means.<br>
>><br>
>> Pat<br>
>><br>
>> Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 01:07:15PM +1100, Luke
Iggleden wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Not sure what the TIO will do with
this.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Numerous items listed in their
constitution seem to exclude them from<br>
>>> looking into this:<br>
>>><br>
>>> 4.3 The functions of the TIO do not
extend to complaints relating to:<br>
>>><br>
>>> (i)<br>
>>> matters which may involve anti
competitive behaviour or restrictive<br>
>>> practices potentially in breach of the
Trade Practices Act 1974;<br>
>>> (j)<br>
>>> matters which are specifically under
consideration by the Australian<br>
>>> Communications and Media Authority, the
Australian Competition and<br>
>>> Consumer Commission or any court or
tribunal, or which have been<br>
>>> considered by any of those bodies
previously;<br>
>>> (k)<br>
>>> the content of a content service (as
defined in The Telecommunications<br>
>>> Act 1997); and<br>
>>> (l)<br>
>>> an alleged breach of an industry code
or industry standard by a member<br>
>>> of the Telecommunications Industry
Ombudsman Limited, where the<br>
>>> complaint is made by a member of the
Telecommunications Industry<br>
>>> Ombudsman Limited or another industry
participant<br>
>>><br>
>>> Doesn't handle inter-member disputes,
doubt megaport is obliged to be a<br>
>>> member of the TIO which may exclude
them in l.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> On 14/01/2014 12:40 pm, Bevan
Slattery wrote:<br>
>>>> Hi All,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> As the subject line says?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.megaport.com/blog/entry/megaport-temporarily-suspends-new-megaport-orders-from-pipe-networks-datacentres-1.html"
target="_blank">http://www.megaport.com/blog/entry/megaport-temporarily-suspends-new-megaport-orders-from-pipe-networks-datacentres-1.html</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Email Friendly<br>
>>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bit.ly/1hkC82e" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/1hkC82e</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Cheers<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> [b]<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
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