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I'm guessing here - but I would assume the use of this kind of gas
suppression system is a selling point for Global Switch to the point
of it isn't harmful to your electronics - saving your equipment if
it is not in the direct path of the fire.<br>
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Given that 'selling point' has failed, I would imagine it'd come
under Global Switches liability?<br>
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This again assuming that GS use this as a selling point over other
DC's (such as Equinix ) that dump the foam and ruin everyone's
hardware.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/01/14 08:41, Matt Perkins wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">A good question. I would think it
would be covered under equipment breakdown policy. As there was
no fire. I would think most people would not be insured for this
sort of thing. It's a good question for your broker. <br>
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Matt<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Who pays for
this ? If you were in the suite and lost 20-40 drives,
would insurance cover it and if not do you have any claim
on GS if it was done in error. Or is it a case of you know
the risks, buyer beware. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>James Braunegg<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 13 January 2014 10:19 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Global switch Level 4
Hard disk's<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">I’d love to know
if any Server or Storage Vendors have any meantime to
failure reports based on exposure to different fire
suppression systems, very interesting Read / Topic !!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">On 13 Jan 2014,
at 2:00 pm, Brad Gould <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">> Sudden
pressure increase or temperature drop with a gas dump?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">I’m with Brad,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Gas expansion is
an endothermic process. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">The temperature
will drop significantly - more than you could effect
with a block of ice. In a data centre, the air temp will
be back to normal in one cycle, so humans may not notice
the difference.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Disks are
spinning at 10K rpm, operating at 55 degrees. It’s not
surprising that they would fail with a sudden drop in
temperature. 3.5” SATA drives are going to be hit harder
than 2.5” SAS drives, simply because they are bigger and
will contract further.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Pressure increase
on a gas drop will be negligible, and most hard drives
are effectively sealed anyway.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Someone hit a hot
hard drive performing a transfer with a CO2 fire
extinguisher, and let us know the result :)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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