<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div>Law enforcement is entirely caught up with Australian community acceptable standards. E grade website and network operators produce website which are subject to SQL injection attacks that literally a 15 year old can pull off, and in embarrassment they sick the police on any 15 year olds who think they are helping. While this goes on, network operators hand over information required to mount the case against him without scrutinizing a warrant.<div>
<br></div><div>If we want actual Australian community standards applied to the networks and systems of this country, the NOGgers and the SAGE-AUers need to turn around and say "No, I will not comply with an S313 request for metadata unless you provide a warrant." and "It is unethical of you as the web team to require me to package up information about us getting pwned so you can provide it to the APF to investigate the online equivalent of us leaving every window and door open with neon signs saying "credit card details in here"".</div>
<div><br></div><div>Our community standards aren't some aspirational idea from a handful of network operators about how things should work, they are the result of how they do work, as a result of how we behave. This guy is going to get rolled and people like us are going to help.</div>
<div><br></div><div>We can stop it if we want, but it involves a combination of standing by the quality of our work and pushing back on requests for assistance in victimising people that make us look bad.</div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 6:01 AM, thelionroars <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thelionroars1337@gmail.com" target="_blank">thelionroars1337@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On 8 January 2014 23:30, Patrick Webster <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:patrick@aushack.com" target="_blank">patrick@aushack.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">It is time law enforcement caught up with the Australian community acceptable standards.<br></p></blockquote>
<div> <br></div></div><div>Agreed. Actually, maybe the Federal Government should be looking at legislating to ensure protection of people who try to inform organisations of these vulnerabilities. They should consider legislating mandatory disclosure of information security breaches while they are it.<br>
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