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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">wildly variable is what I hear<br>
      somewhere between 200:1 and 2000:1 are the numbers being thrown
      around on whirlpool so take that with as big a grain of salt as
      you desire.<br>
      I believe optus have been attempting to reduce it somewhat by
      chopping up segments and have been throwing some more bandwidth at
      it with bonding (well they say bonding improves bandwidth for the
      segment, I'm not too sure how that works but my understanding of
      the fundamentals of HFC aren't that great).<br>
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      My home was in the "under construction" band for FTTP, so I still
      hold some vague hope even though I am in a HFC area.<br>
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      Why oh why could he not have done what politicians are supposed to
      do, blame the last guy for doing a crap job, throw a few
      sweeteners in then get on with doing the exact same damn thing?<br>
      Prioritise areas with no broadband, perhaps drop a few nodes in
      places that really sucked as an interim measure, drop nodes in
      regional towns to take some load off the wireless etc.<br>
      "stop the waste" and so on and so forth, then get on with the job
      of rolling out an asset, not polishing the copper for a third
      time.<br>
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      I am so over all this petty political point scoring. <br>
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      On 12/12/13 19:39, Nick Gale wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">so what would be the contention ratio on cable? how
        much is that 1Gbps divided by for most of the rollout in
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                      T:</b> (08) 9425 5029<b><br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 12 December 2013 16:02, Martin -
          StudioCoast <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              <div><font size="-1"><font face="Arial">DOCSIS 3.1 is
                    capable of 1Gbps uploads (shared).<br>
                    While the costs to upgrade HFC to 3.1 is unknown,
                    it's reasonable to assume it is less than FTTN
                    (since the cabinets are already there)<br>
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                <div class="im">On 12/12/2013 5:59 PM, James Andrewartha
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                  <pre>On Thu, 12 Dec 2013, Paul Wallace wrote:

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                    <pre>I think you're right .. FTTN is just not good enough.
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                  <pre>Plus, if you're in an HFC (Foxtel/Optus Pay TV) area, you get nothing 
beyond what is available today, not even FTTN: 
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://delimiter.com.au/2013/12/12/nbn-co-abandons-fttn-rollout-hfc-areas/" target="_blank">http://delimiter.com.au/2013/12/12/nbn-co-abandons-fttn-rollout-hfc-areas/</a>

Shed a tear for ubiquitous fast upload speeds.

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