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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">What we found if we ran two ports at
      the same time each one drops to around 15Mbps!<br>
      Never did try 4.<br>
      <br>
      On 12/12/2013 1:54 PM, Peter Blackford wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAG1aRi9-naob9aogx=ZQtU8L5x7JeLNFVDbTb7hGE+q3hiwi2Q@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">This is with the AAM1212-51 (ADSL 2+ Annex M) and a
        Linksys WAG120N
        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On 12 December 2013 13:48, Skeeve
            Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com"
                target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
              <div dir="ltr">Is this the ADSL or VDSL ones?  Just
                confirming?
                <div>
                  <br>
                </div>
                <div>If it is the VDSL ones... what CPE's was it tested
                  with.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>If it was the ADSL ones... that TP isn't too bad is
                  it?</div>
              </div>
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                <div class="im"><br clear="all">
                  <div>
                    <div dir="ltr">
                      <div><br>
                        ...Skeeve</div>
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                      <div>
                        <div><b
                            style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve
                            Stevens - </b><span
                            style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego
                            Networks Pty Ltd</span></div>
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                                href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/"
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                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at
                      1:43 PM, Peter Blackford <span dir="ltr"><<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:peter@onemetric.com"
                          target="_blank">peter@onemetric.com</a>></span>
                      wrote:<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr">1) Throughput was the problem we
                          had with the ADSL2+ Zyxel - it was maxing out
                          at around 15Mbps / port.
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>This is from a pizza box Zyxel DSLAM</div>
                          <div><br>
                            <div class="gmail_extra"><img
                                src="cid:part12.05090901.09070902@traverse.com.au"
                                alt="Inline images 1"></div>
                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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                            <div class="gmail_extra">Just be aware that
                              lead time is about 6 weeks between
                              ordering and delivery.<br>
                              <br>
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                              <br>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">On 12 December
                                2013 12:57, Guy Ellis <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:guy@traverse.com.au"
                                    target="_blank">guy@traverse.com.au</a>></span>
                                wrote:<br>
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                                  style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                                    <div>Hi Skeeve,<br>
                                      <br>
                                      1) Throughput was the problem we
                                      had with the ADSL2+ Zyxel - it was
                                      maxing out at around 15Mbps /
                                      port.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      <p><b>2) Australia/New
                                          Zealand—Melbourne</b><br>
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="tel:%2B61%203%209658%200500"
                                          value="+61396580500"
                                          target="_blank">+61 3 9658
                                          0500</a><br>
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="tel:%2B61%203%209658%200599"
                                          value="+61396580599"
                                          target="_blank">+61 3 9658
                                          0599</a> fax<br>
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:sales.australia@adtran.com"
                                          target="_blank">sales.australia@adtran.com</a></p>
                                      <br>
                                      3) We are ETSI and don't forget it
                                      - our cars run on petrol not
                                      gasoline!<br>
                                      <br>
                                      4) The Host model includes a
                                      management node and will run stand
                                      alone.<br>
                                      Client model needs an upstream
                                      Host for management.<br>
                                      Depending on your topology you may
                                      need both types.<br>
                                      I'm sure their friendly sales guy
                                      will help you ;-)<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Cheers,<br>
                                       - Guy.
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                                          <br>
                                          On 12/12/2013 12:21 PM, Skeeve
                                          Stevens wrote:<br>
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                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>
                                        <blockquote type="cite">
                                          <div dir="ltr">Guy,
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>I'd like to know more
                                              about why you think the
                                              ZyXEL's weren't good.</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Also, the Adtran's also
                                              look interesting.  Any
                                              contact to get some
                                              pricing/info?</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Might be a stupid
                                              question.. but in AU and
                                              NZ are we ANSI or ETSI?</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Also not  sure what
                                              they mean by Host and
                                              Client models.</div>
                                          </div>
                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br
                                              clear="all">
                                            <div>
                                              <div dir="ltr">
                                                <div><br>
                                                  ...Skeeve</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div><b
                                                      style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve

                                                      Stevens - </b><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div><span
                                                        style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com"
                                                          target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/"
                                                          target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span><font>
                                                        <p
                                                          style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px">
                                                          Phone: 1300
                                                          239 038; Cell
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B61%20%280%29414%20753%20383" value="+61414753383"
                                                          target="_blank">+61
                                                          (0)414 753 383</a>
                                                          ; <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">skype://skeeve</a></p>
                                                        <p
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                                                          target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a> ; <a
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                                                          target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> </p>
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                                                          style="margin:0px"><span
style="color:rgb(127,0,127);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:13px">The

                                                          Experts Who
                                                          The Experts
                                                          Call</span></p>
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style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(127,0,127)"><span
style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">Juniper - Cisco </span><span
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                                            <br>
                                            <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                              Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:54
                                              AM, Guy Ellis <span
                                                dir="ltr"><<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:guy@traverse.com.au" target="_blank">guy@traverse.com.au</a>></span>
                                              wrote:<br>
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                                                  bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                                                  <div>Based on our
                                                    ADSL2+ experience I
                                                    wouldn't go near
                                                    Zyxel with a barge
                                                    pole.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Instead take a look
                                                    at the Adtran 1248V
                                                    - they are not
                                                    expensive and are
                                                    carrier class.<br>
                                                    They even have a
                                                    local engineer in
                                                    Melbourne!<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    On 12/12/2013 11:43
                                                    AM, Skeeve Stevens
                                                    wrote:<br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <blockquote
                                                    type="cite">
                                                    <div dir="ltr">Hey,
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Anyone have
                                                        any experience
                                                        with these:</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.zyxel.com/au/en/products_services/ves1724_56.shtml?t=p"
target="_blank">http://www.zyxel.com/au/en/products_services/ves1724_56.shtml?t=p</a></div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>48 port VDSL2
                                                        DSLAMs.</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>If so,
                                                        opinions
                                                        welcome...
                                                         Costs would be
                                                        interesting to
                                                        know.</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Any sales
                                                        contacts in AU
                                                        or NZ would be
                                                        welcome too.</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div><br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          ...Skeeve</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><b
                                                          style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve


                                                          Stevens - </b><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com"
                                                          target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/"
                                                          target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span><font>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px">
                                                          Phone: 1300
                                                          239 038; Cell
                                                          +61 (0)414 753
                                                          383 ; <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">skype://skeeve</a></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks"
                                                          target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a> ; <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve"
                                                          target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> </p>
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                                                          <p
                                                          style="margin:0px"><span
style="color:rgb(127,0,127);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:13px">The


                                                          Experts Who
                                                          The Experts
                                                          Call</span></p>
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style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(127,0,127)"><span
style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">Juniper - Cisco </span><span
                                                          style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">-
                                                          Cloud</span></div>
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