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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Try running a 2x DSL ports ;-)<br>
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      On 12/12/2013 1:43 PM, Peter Blackford wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">1) Throughput was the problem we had with the
        ADSL2+ Zyxel - it was maxing out at around 15Mbps / port.
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        <div>This is from a pizza box Zyxel DSLAM</div>
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          <div class="gmail_extra">Just be aware that lead time is about
            6 weeks between ordering and delivery.<br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On 12 December 2013 12:57, Guy
              Ellis <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:guy@traverse.com.au" target="_blank">guy@traverse.com.au</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
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                  <div>Hi Skeeve,<br>
                    <br>
                    1) Throughput was the problem we had with the ADSL2+
                    Zyxel - it was maxing out at around 15Mbps / port.<br>
                    <br>
                    <p><b>2) Australia/New Zealand—Melbourne</b><br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="tel:%2B61%203%209658%200500"
                        value="+61396580500" target="_blank">+61 3 9658
                        0500</a><br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="tel:%2B61%203%209658%200599"
                        value="+61396580599" target="_blank">+61 3 9658
                        0599</a> fax<br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:sales.australia@adtran.com"
                        target="_blank">sales.australia@adtran.com</a></p>
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                    3) We are ETSI and don't forget it - our cars run on
                    petrol not gasoline!<br>
                    <br>
                    4) The Host model includes a management node and
                    will run stand alone.<br>
                    Client model needs an upstream Host for management.<br>
                    Depending on your topology you may need both types.<br>
                    I'm sure their friendly sales guy will help you ;-)<br>
                    <br>
                    Cheers,<br>
                     - Guy.
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                        On 12/12/2013 12:21 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr">Guy,
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                          <div>I'd like to know more about why you think
                            the ZyXEL's weren't good.</div>
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                          <div>Also, the Adtran's also look interesting.
                             Any contact to get some pricing/info?</div>
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                          <div>Might be a stupid question.. but in AU
                            and NZ are we ANSI or ETSI?</div>
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                          <div>Also not  sure what they mean by Host and
                            Client models.</div>
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                                ...Skeeve</div>
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                                <div><b
                                    style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve

                                    Stevens - </b><span
                                    style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego

                                    Networks Pty Ltd</span></div>
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                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 12, 2013
                            at 11:54 AM, Guy Ellis <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                target="_blank">guy@traverse.com.au</a>></span>
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                                <div>Based on our ADSL2+ experience I
                                  wouldn't go near Zyxel with a barge
                                  pole.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Instead take a look at the Adtran
                                  1248V - they are not expensive and are
                                  carrier class.<br>
                                  They even have a local engineer in
                                  Melbourne!<br>
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                                  On 12/12/2013 11:43 AM, Skeeve Stevens
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                  <div dir="ltr">Hey,
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                                    <div>Anyone have any experience with
                                      these:</div>
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                                    <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://www.zyxel.com/au/en/products_services/ves1724_56.shtml?t=p"
                                        target="_blank">http://www.zyxel.com/au/en/products_services/ves1724_56.shtml?t=p</a></div>
                                    <div><br>
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                                    <div>48 port VDSL2 DSLAMs.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>If so, opinions welcome...
                                       Costs would be interesting to
                                      know.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Any sales contacts in AU or NZ
                                      would be welcome too.</div>
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                                            ...Skeeve</div>
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                                            <div><b
                                                style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve


                                                Stevens - </b><span
                                                style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego


                                                Networks Pty Ltd</span></div>
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                                                    target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a
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                                                    target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span><font>
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                                                    038; Cell +61 (0)414
                                                    753 383 ; <a
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